Posties boast of 'Spanish practices':RMC mentioned!!!!

[POSTMAN]

It's not us, destroying the service. It's the Fat Cats, lining their pockets!

I couldn't care less what some Right Wing American blogger thinks of the UK or RM, but what "fat cats" are you referring to here?

WTF!

[Tman]

WTF indeed.......

[andy2007]

Tman. Do you have any comment, now that you know to which Fat Cats we were referring?
And in particular the fact that they aren't even in the same league, as REAL Businessmen. The ones who get there through effort, knowledge, and determination. Rather than just lining their pockets, with the fruits of other's labours.

[Night Tonic]

A job is a job. You do the work, you get paid. How its run is hardly your affair. If you ran your own company you'd take the same view.

[Tman]

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andy2007"]Tman. Do you have any comment, now that you know to which Fat Cats we were referring?

No, other than the people you refer to are hardly "fat cats" in the usual sense of the term.

And in particular the fact that they aren't even in the same league, as REAL Businessmen. The ones who get there through effort, knowledge, and determination. Rather than just lining their pockets, with the fruits of other's labours. :

Well, yes, and that's what I've said above, but you don't really believe they're "just lining their pockets, with the fruits of other's labours." though, surely? A little over-dramatic, to say the least.

BTW, if you start spouting sentiments like-

REAL Businessmen. The ones who get there through effort, knowledge, and determination.

you'll have the Wolfies down on you. "Parasitical scum", as dear old TBT termed them a while back...

I was going to say all that, then couldn't be bothered, knowing the expected replies, but Andy,since you asked.........

[TrueBlueTerrier]

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you'll have the Wolfies down on you. "Parasitical scum", as dear old TBT termed them a while back...

Sorry not me - never used the term scum (except when associated with the newspaper knowns as the Sun). Perhaps you could provide a link, after all you have just accused me of something I have warned people about in the past. ie name calling.

As for the term wolfies - don't think I have ever used that on RMC except when quoting posts.

[Tman]

No, you're right, it was POSTMAN, as here-

It's a f***ing scam,what training that will help youngsters in the future can these capitalist parasites give.

from the thread about "apprentice training"

It wasn't an accurate quote or attributed to the right person, so I apologise unreservedly.

[POSTMAN]

Ha,you're losing it fella,i didn't even call them scum,although.......

Clutching at straws now are we,anyway,boys got footie training on sat,match on sun.Not sure what i've for dinner though.

[concerned]

Hi,bit of a niave question but...... why have you guys not yet used the internet to your advantage? If i worked for RM i would personally bring in a video camera, film management and the way they are dealing with staff and film yourselves at work. I would then put it on You Tube and email newspapers to take a peek. Just a thought mind....

[TrueBlueTerrier]

No, you're right, it was POSTMAN, as here-

It's a f***ing scam,what training that will help youngsters in the future can these capitalist parasites give.

from the thread about "apprentice training"

It wasn't an accurate quote or attributed to the right person, so I apologise unreservedly.

Thank you much appreciated.

[norbert]

Hi,bit of a niave question but...... why have you guys not yet used the internet to your advantage? If i worked for RM i would personally bring in a video camera, film management and the way they are dealing with staff and film yourselves at work. I would then put it on You Tube and email newspapers to take a peek. Just a thought mind....

RM do not like You Tube - there's stuff that goes back to the 2007 dispute

[concerned]

Hi,bit of a niave question but...... why have you guys not yet used the internet to your advantage? If i worked for RM i would personally bring in a video camera, film management and the way they are dealing with staff and film yourselves at work. I would then put it on You Tube and email newspapers to take a peek. Just a thought mind....

RM do not like You Tube - there's stuff that goes back to the 2007 dispute

So? You can keep peoples faces hidden

[norbert]

Hi,bit of a niave question but...... why have you guys not yet used the internet to your advantage? If i worked for RM i would personally bring in a video camera, film management and the way they are dealing with staff and film yourselves at work. I would then put it on You Tube and email newspapers to take a peek. Just a thought mind....

RM do not like You Tube - there's stuff that goes back to the 2007 dispute

So? You can keep peoples faces hidden

I agree with the gist of what you say , yes ! - it would be possible to make a ropey recording on a mobile and upload it and cover faces BUT RM are absolutely paranoid about You Tube . People have been threatened with the Official Secrets Act due to You Tube Videos .

There was a idiot who put all the horseplay videos onto to his own channel calling it CWU scum , then it was changed to RM morons or Moronic Postmen .

Also one from Bristol got the sack for comments made on here in 2007 , it's obvious somebody was trying to impress somebody higher up the RM chain of command . She was only reinstated as her tribunal hearing was to start and allegedly the papers knew about it . A another was only reinstated on the saturday before the Monday of the Tribunal . Hellmail actually published " quotes " " admitting " their guilt , then the article was toned down . The other site was I'm reliably informed , very nervous about the whole subject . Apparently according to a " independent " source on there - people were " speculating " .

[DirtyHarry]

A job is a job. You do the work, you get paid. How its run is hardly your affair. If you ran your own company you'd take the same view.

Crozier 'aint running his own company into the dirt, is he? It's our, and every taxpayer in the land, company.
I don't believe for one instant that cretins like Crozier, Leighton, Brydon, could build their own companies from scratch and make a success of them, as none of them have displayed any sort of business acumen whatsoever. Anybody can waltz into an institution like the Royal Mail and do nothing but cut, cut, cut, in fact, so unbelievably lazy, uninspiring, is cost cutting, a trained Chimpanzee could do it, hardly rocket science, is it?
No, real businessmen have entrepreneurial skills, something which is all too evidently lacking in berks like Crozier & Co.

[norbert]

A job is a job. You do the work, you get paid. How its run is hardly your affair. If you ran your own company you'd take the same view.

Crozier 'aint running his own company into the dirt, is he? It's our, and every taxpayer in the land, company.
I don't believe for one instant that cretins like Crozier, Leighton, Brydon, could build their own companies from scratch and make a success of them, as none of them have displayed any sort of business acumen whatsoever. [b] Anybody can waltz into an institution like the Royal Mail and do nothing but cut, cut, cut,[/b] in fact, so unbelievably lazy, uninspiring, is cost cutting, a trained Chimpanzee could do it, hardly rocket science, is it?
No, real businessmen have entrepreneurial skills, something which is all too evidently lacking in berks like Crozier & Co.

Crozier was only put in when RM got shafted on C4's " Despatches " , OK ; it was distorted and there was a element of sensationalism as you'd expect with TV but the media view was that there was more than a grain of truth in it . It wouldn't be that difficult to do a video like that in some places with the aid of selective editing . He did threaten to set RM's lawyers on them but we didn't hear any more on the subject .

C4 came back and did another one , they found a legendary depot , Kirkby , Liverpool to film in . On BBC Watchdog - they found somebody dumping - The Pravda or The Courier defended that postman , basically RM twisted everything around .

You have to look at who appoints these people from the " magic circle and it's HMG , & the DTI who are in reality the ultimate employer . Gordon Brown set up a Stakeholder's Executive to increase the value of Part or Wholly State owned companies , HMG got German Bankers to act as headhunters to recruit these much loved leaders on paper but people like New Labour's Stephen Byers were " influential " in getting the likes of :lfo in as he'd experience of " union avoidance " with ASDA / Walmart and Byers knew the CWU would be a " obstacle " in splitting RM up .

They're just hatchet men , the bonuses are to replicate share options in a private firm , a arms length approach from HMG if you will . Mandy originally wanted RM privatized but had to fudge it instead as Blair faced a backbench revolt in the late 90's " Things can only get better days " and get Postcon the regulator to do their dirty work for them . Cameron would just sell it off , they've either no policies or they're keeping quiet about them .

Darling has got " businessmen " to do " operational efficiency reviews " - the so called £20 million savings couldn't be identified , it involved sacking tax inspectors that actually brought in much more money than their salaries and the dole staff that Brown sacked have had to been brought back to issue dole money . New Deal has been a atrocious waste of money , throwing extravagant sums at cowboys like A4e that have been on the telly .

After Mandy's failed RM privatization fiasco , Darling plans to sell off , British Waterways , The Land Registry , The Defence Storeage Agency and the Royal Mint , they've also tried privatizing MOD HM Services Training . It'll actually cost more under PFI to buy the services back but it initially stays off the HMG balance sheet .

Metronet in London is a classic example of PFI not working . Ironically it's the same idea that Mussolini used in Bankrupt Fascist Italy to do infrastructure improvements during WW2 .