more info on the latest RM terms

[bristolchris]

Thanks, Postman.

[mylegshurt]

where can i find what i read on here yesterday regarding all the crap about working till you finish, no payment for d2d ,mc working till everything clear etc.chears need to show my rep.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

[quote="borders"]NATIONAL POSTAL DISPUTE

A national briefing of all Branches took place on Thursday 13 September in London.

Copies of Royal Mail’s final position were handed out. It is fair to say that the document was received with a mixture of anger and amazement.

Royal Mail handed this document to the Union on the day before the talks were due to conclude. We are looking to get copies out to workplaces as soon as we can. Please read especially further on concerning your Pension.

Why is there no agreement after all this time ?

This is a fair question to ask. The Union always said that we wanted an honourable agreement. It was us who asked for the suspension of strikes so as to allow time for talks as long as RM would negotiate in a meaningful manner.

We understand that progress was made and indeed although the discussions were not progressed enough, members will know that the talks were extended.

The reason there is no agreement is that out of the blue Royal Mail dumped on us what they knew we could never agree to.

A letter to everyone’s home address will be sent out by the Union shortly.

What does this unagreed document state ?

The list that follows genuinely demonstrates the contempt Royal Mail have for us. If agreed, it would mean the end of the CWU in the way we know. More importantly, it would mean that your pay and conditions were massively reduced.

Ø Later starts 0600 to 0630 for most, including Saturdays.

Ø All night shifts in DOs , B/H and Sunday collections to go.

Ø All weekend MC operation to be reviewed (both inward and outward work), with a view to moving less time critical work (2c) to Mondays

Ø Collapsing of walks and duties (DOs and MCs) from wks 8 to 24.

Ø Complete flexible working. Royal Mail state : people will work different hours on different days of the week. This is from 1 October 2007.

Ø Everyone is liable to be forced at 7 days notice to change duty time each day required by + or – 2 hours.

Ø Everyone is liable to be forced at 24 hours notice to change duty time by + or – 30 minutes.

Ø MC staff are liable to be told to “stay later on shift to clear work and where possible come in later the next day.â€

[tyconuk]

Why two weeks ago, was their a rumor of a good deal been talked about!
What had the union agreed too, on that pile of s**t?
What add-on did the union not like?
Think about it, did the union nearly sell us out AGAIN?
Something isn't quite right here. They had nearly 5 weeks of talks, they must off got
somewhere in that time or was it just five weeks of piss-ups and take-aways!
PIAD for by us!
listen, i'm no managers gimp, and i will always do as the union say! I come form an OLD LABOUR back ground!
but sometihng is just not right, getting that feeling in my waters!

[POSTMAN]

As i've said a load of times,there WAS a deal,and late on the Sun night,RM came in and pulled it and gave this one.

[Big Daz]

As i've said a load of times,there WAS a deal,and late on the Sun night,RM came in and pulled it and gave this one.

Then its time the CWU leaders made this widesprerad knowlege.

LTB should be put out monday with the truth

[POSTMAN]

As i've said a load of times,there WAS a deal,and late on the Sun night,RM came in and pulled it and gave this one.

Then its time the CWU leaders made this widesprerad knowlege.

LTB should be put out monday with the truth

LTB being done this W/E.

[dvbuk55]

As i've said a load of times,there WAS a deal,and late on the Sun night,RM came in and pulled it and gave this one.

Then its time the CWU leaders made this widesprerad knowlege.

LTB should be put out monday with the truth

LTB being done this W/E.

Whats taken so long? And I don't mean just the LTB. What took so long to decide that this was a crock of crap. Are we truly expected to believe that right up to the Sunday night there was a workable deal then all of a sudden they are confronted with this. Lead me to the town hall steps my keks are already round my knees.

[chayoliver]

Why aint your reps got a copy of it,mine did?
Shouldn't all rep have one.
I do know there is a letters to branches being done this weekend,but surely ALL reps should of got a copy!!!

Yes i agree ive seen the 13 page document this morning off my rep its shocking especially the pension part its what i call a disgrace and unbelievable i just hope any one who crossed the picket line reads it and hope they hold their hands up and admit they were wrong to go in, if not they are more f****g stupid than first thought :cfo :lfo

[stephen500]

As i've said a load of times,there WAS a deal,and late on the Sun night,RM came in and pulled it and gave this one.

So who insisted on the new one, Adam crozier?????

[chayoliver]

As i've said a load of times,there WAS a deal,and late on the Sun night,RM came in and pulled it and gave this one.

So who insisted on the new one, Adam crozier?????

either that or keggie is back

[goinpostal]

ta borders reps in Leeds got it today from branch, runs to 6 pages! People were pretty shocked at it today and that was what i printed out from thursday, the stuff from friday was even worse, have been emailing it to everyone i know whose in a union or the left.

btw someone should make those arses at hellmail eat their words, they had a topic where they were questioning why posties were banging on about the business plan when there were "only" 5 things RM had actually proposed - well they will have to change their tune now. im banned for saying they were biased but someone else could do it! hellmail

[POSTMAN]

As i've said a load of times,there WAS a deal,and late on the Sun night,RM came in and pulled it and gave this one.

So who insisted on the new one, Adam crozier?????

either that or keggie is back

No one has insisted it,it was just given to us!

[borders]

Goinpostal--- yeah,you are right, the longer version is even worse !!! glad your menbers have now been able to see it for themselves. been also sent this document, not sure what to make of it , maybe it has been seen before , but it seems the CWU had agreed to some of royal mails proposals, perhaps this was the agreement before RM changed their minds ??? ROYAL MAIL INTENTIONS FOR THE YEAR.



  Pay and Flexibility Agreement 2007/08


1.  Introduction


1.1    Royal Mail has developed a strategic plan that takes advantage of substantial investment and is designed to ensure it continues to succeed in an increasingly competitive environment.  

1.2    The plan demands substantial change to ways of working, greater responsiveness and efficiency to meet customer need.  Royal Mail and the Communication Workers Union have agreed that the business must be:

•    A successful company that is sustainable for the long term.
•    Capable of generating sufficient funds to allow it to pursue change, to develop and to maintain competitive advantage.
•     Providing a culture of empowerment, pace and a collaborative approach for commercial success.
•    Working with stakeholders to create a business environment, which gives the company every opportunity to succeed.

1.3 Royal Mail and CWU agree that in order to achieve these aims an unprecedented focus is required on driving up the efficiency of the operation and the productivity of our people.  It is agreed that individuals must be treated fairly and with respect.  They must only be asked to undertake work which is safe, legal and for which they have been trained.  However given these constraints, individuals will be expected to be flexible and offer every assistance to the business as it makes change and reduces costs.  Specific change programmes are set out in section two of this agreement, but CWU agree that efficiency improvements are not limited to these and that every opportunity must be taken to improve our competitive position.

1.4 This agreement applies to OPG, OSG, MDEC, Mail Screener and Engineer grades and sets out the timetable for changes to working practices and agreed pay and benefits for the financial year 2007/08. This agreement applies from October 2007 for MGV drivers, but excludes LGV Drivers in line with the Professional Drivers Agreement. These are designed to enhance business flexibility and improve efficiency as the first step on our 4 year journey.  Further talks designed to create an exciting new pay and benefits package will be agreed by September 2007 to be implemented as soon as possible and no later than April 2008.





















2.  Flexibility Package

2.1 Removal of night shifts in delivery units - Increasing levels of automation and low levels of indoor efficiency have created an opportunity to make better use of indoor time in delivery units.  The standard is to cease all night shifts in delivery offices, although a small number of exceptions may be required in city centre units with very high proportions of firms deliveries.  This work will be completed on a phased basis starting April but will be completed in all units by Monday 30th July 2007.  


2.2 Retarding Delivery Start Times – The Network 2007 project is driven by legislative change to 7.5T vehicle maximum speeds.  This will impact on arrival times for mail into delivery units.  Consultation on the detail of this project has commenced and it has been agreed that the change will be implemented in August 2007.  The existing delivery specification of last letter by 14.00 for town and 15.00 for rural will remain.  But it is agreed that retardation of duty start times is required with 0600 – 0630 as the norm for the majority, some duties may start earlier to receive feeder services, cut tip and commence mails preparation.  Saturday attendance times may include a finish earlier than 1400hrs if operationally practicable.  In order to provide reassurance where changes in attendance times are being considered Royal Mail confirms that the full value of the MTSF – protected allowances will be included in the forth coming review of the pay package.


2.3 Weekend Working – Royal Mail and CWU have agreed to minimise expenditure at premium rates by radically overhauling the weekend and Bank Holiday operation.  Royal Mail intends to cease offering Sunday and Bank Holiday collections.  Consultations with Postcomm and Postwatch are underway.  Meanwhile, by 2nd July 2007 all Mail Centres will revise Sunday working arrangements to eliminate spend on non time critical products and focus only on 1C and express products.  Meanwhile all MC’s will review their weekend inward operation to move non-time critical inward work to Monday mornings and adjust weekend resourcing to ensure focus on 1C and express products only. Where weekend working is required to meet customer specifications existing terms and conditions will apply.

2.4 Efficient Summer Scheduling – During the summer, traffic volumes fall and productivity is reduced, as we are unable to flex resourcing to levels that maintain efficiency.  Royal Mail and CWU have agreed that summer scheduling must be reviewed to take account of reduced workload.  This will offer opportunities for additional summer leave in the popular weeks.  Units must scope opportunities to absorb absence by transferring responsibilities between duties during the summer weeks.  For example – in delivery, town residential walks could be reduced on a ratio of 6 into 5 from week 8 of the financial year until week 24.  A similar review will be undertaken for firms walks where the ratio could be 4 into 3.  This will be introduced into all DO’s in time for summer 2007, and a similar approach applied to other operational units such as MCs and RDCs.

2.5 Door to Door – The Door to Door product continues to offer genuine scope for revenue growth for Royal Mail at a time when other revenue streams are being constrained by the impact of e-substitution, competition and price regulation.  Royal Mail and CWU have therefore agreed to take radical steps to maximise the opportunity offered by D2D.  With effect from Monday 4th June 2007 the current cap of 3 items per week will be increased to 5.  The existing D2D unit payments will be paid to individuals up to a maximum of 3 items per week. Items over the first 3 will be absorbed without unit payment.  Each individual will deliver the D2D items for their delivery. Payments will be reviewed as part of the Future Pay Structure discussions detailed in section 5 of this agreement.  






3.  2007/08 Pay Arrangements

3.1    Royal Mail has set two alternative options for pay; both are dependant on commitment to flexibility detailed in section 2 above. One of the options will be agreed for National implementation.

3.2    Option 1 - Royal Mail has made an offer of £600 (paid pro-rata for less than full time people) as a non-consolidated, non-pensionable lump sum.  

3.3 Option 2 - Royal Mail has made an offer 2.5% on basic pay flowing through to allowances, overtime and scheduled attendance. This will be implemented Monday 2nd April 2007


4.  2007/08 Productivity Scheme

4.1    Employees will have the opportunity to enhance their earnings through an office-based lump sum bonus scheme, which will run for financial year 07/08, based on the success of their local unit (delivery office, mail centre, distribution centre and distribution hub).  

4.2    This scheme will not operate with pre-determined targets.  It simply relies on the local parties considering if there are any pragmatic and realistic opportunities to make their office more efficient, whilst ensuring that all mail is cleared to workplan.  If savings are achieved beyond the budget the staff will receive a 50% share.

4.3    In postal units any saving above the local mails operations staff cash budget will be split 50:50 between the business and the OPG and OSG employees in the unit.  The actual financial performance of the office between April and March each year will be calculated for each half-year accounting period.  Any savings made against the mails operations staff budget will contribute.

4.4    The bonus pool will be divided by the number of eligible employees (pro-rata to hours for part-time staff) giving individuals their lump sum payments.  Payments will be made twice during the year, once just before Christmas and once in late May.  Bonus units will be defined as per the 06/07 scheme.

4.5    In order to receive bonus employees will have to be in paid employment during the period concerned, and on the payment date.  Payments will be adjusted for industrial action in any 24-hour period.

4.6    Royal Mail accepts that CWU has not signed up to RM operational budgets and that operational budgets will not set a precedent for any future incentive schemes.  CWU reserves the right to raise any material anomalies in relation to the level of savings and budget.  The national parties jointly will oversee the fair application of the scheme, and CWU will have access to all information relating to it.

4.7    Royal Mail and the CWU will jointly identify and agree at the local office if there are any opportunities to make further efficiency savings.  The local parties should seek the views and support of our local people.  The enablers in this Agreement will provide the basis for local deployment plans and earnings opportunities.

4.8 Section 4 of this agreement does not apply to MDEC keyers who are covered by a separate bonus scheme.








5.   Future Pay Structure

5.1 In the 2005 Shaping our Future Agreement Royal Mail and CWU agreed that we must continue to work together to ensure that we become the most efficient, customer focussed and flexible company in the market place and at the same time raise the value and status of a postal workers job.  We also reaffirmed our intention to introduce a new package based on consolidating and simplifying pay.  These aspirations can only be realised if the business is generating profits and has a sustainable future based on revenue growth and cost reduction.  A separate consultation on future pension arrangements has commenced and is outside the scope of this agreement.


5.2 Royal Mail’s aspirations are for a more flexible way of working.  We will expect our people to have different work patterns based on workload. We will expect people to move locations with notice and consultation.  We will organise the work differently once we have deployed new technology including covering each others leave and sick absence.  Finally we would expect our people to work together to help improve the organisation’s performance. It is agreed that individuals must be treated fairly and with respect.  They must only be asked to undertake work which is safe, legal and for which they have been trained.  However given these constraints, individuals will be expected to be flexible and offer every assistance to the business as it makes change and reduces costs.


5.3 The CWUs aspirations are contained in the pay claim letter dated 06-Mar-07 (ltr to Jon Millidge – 6.3.07. doc).

5.4 Royal Mail and CWU will each nominate five team members to work on the revised package. Independent experts will facilitate initial meetings. Their objective will be to assist both parties in framing the issues and identifying areas of common ground upon which we can build an overall solution and their costs will be met equally by CWU and Royal Mail.

5.5 The timetable for talks will be:

•    Team members nominated by 11th May 2007
•    Inaugural meeting by 30th May 2007
•    Scoping phase complete by 29th June 2007
•    Detailed strand activity completed by 31st August 2007
•    Agreed proposal completed by 28th September 2007
.

[POSTMAN]

ta borders reps in Leeds got it today from branch, runs to 6 pages! People were pretty shocked at it today and that was what i printed out from thursday, the stuff from friday was even worse, have been emailing it to everyone i know whose in a union or the left.

btw someone should make those arses at hellmail eat their words, they had a topic where they were questioning why posties were banging on about the business plan when there were "only" 5 things RM had actually proposed - well they will have to change their tune now. im banned for saying they were biased but someone else could do it! hellmail

Forums closed you reckon they knew summin
Saying that,the 5 strings are banged about somewhere else