Union pressure brings progress on annual leave

redneck · Post by **redneck** » 27 Jun 2019, 16:44

There is a problem with suggesting all overtime is voluntary. Yes, we have the Annex 1 (Conduct Code) Overrunning procedure to follow to deal with this, but it needs a complete overhaul as it develops into an interrogation type situation from the lino (or several) which for most people is very intimidating and is in effect a way of enforcing overtime. Most people in our office do not have the stomach for a daily battle and therefore the suggestion that overtime is voluntary is not correct in practice. Consistent overrunning becomes part of the guy's contract in reality as duties are never altered and you are expected to deliver all you are given. On that basis this recent court ruling can only be a massive help to those whose holiday pay does not reflect what they actually are working on a regular basis.

Celgar · Post by **Celgar** » 27 Jun 2019, 22:21

redneck wrote:There is a problem with suggesting all overtime is voluntary. Yes, we have the Annex 1 (Conduct Code) Overrunning procedure to follow to deal with this, but it needs a complete overhaul as it develops into an interrogation type situation from the lino (or several) which for most people is very intimidating and is in effect a way of enforcing overtime. Most people in our office do not have the stomach for a daily battle and therefore the suggestion that overtime is voluntary is not correct in practice. Consistent overrunning becomes part of the guy's contract in reality as duties are never altered and you are expected to deliver all you are given. On that basis this recent court ruling can only be a massive help to those whose holiday pay does not reflect what they actually are working on a regular basis.

A new postie has resigned in our DO because they are effectively working partially unpaid. Long term posties are somewhat willing to take it on the chin but most new entrants will not take working unpaid for long.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 28 Jun 2019, 18:17

Celgar wrote: A new postie has resigned in our DO because they are effectively working partially unpaid. Long term posties are somewhat willing to take it on the chin but most new entrants will not take working unpaid for long.

Good for Him.

It's a shame that your DOM doesn't have to expalin to his Boss WHY that OPG has left the Business so soon. We may not be Jet Pilots but I'd assume that there's always a cost involved when recruiting new staff?

I always believe that Companies that have an "Exit Interview" have a much better understanding about what's happening in their Business. If 20 people leave saying the Managers a complete idiot, then they can do something about it.

Post by **Navalron** » 28 Jun 2019, 19:09

Celgar wrote:
redneck wrote:There is a problem with suggesting all overtime is voluntary. Yes, we have the Annex 1 (Conduct Code) Overrunning procedure to follow to deal with this, but it needs a complete overhaul as it develops into an interrogation type situation from the lino (or several) which for most people is very intimidating and is in effect a way of enforcing overtime. Most people in our office do not have the stomach for a daily battle and therefore the suggestion that overtime is voluntary is not correct in practice. Consistent overrunning becomes part of the guy's contract in reality as duties are never altered and you are expected to deliver all you are given. On that basis this recent court ruling can only be a massive help to those whose holiday pay does not reflect what they actually are working on a regular basis.
A new postie has resigned in our DO because they are effectively working partially unpaid. Long term posties are somewhat willing to take it on the chin but most new entrants will not take working unpaid for long.

Celger, I agree with most of your posts on this platform but why do you and , as you have alluded to several times in the past, work for nothing. Why mate do you do it. You have great ideas about the way that RM should go but not to be paid for work done, WELL, c,mon now. No hard feelings bro but FFS.