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Pat on back for sledging posties

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norbert
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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opgpat
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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swpostie wrote: I've been able to deliver to every address on my route - it's been icy and slippery but I haven't fallen over.

It's surprising what you can do when you put your mind to it.
Mmm this sounds very similar to what a manager said to me once about new pegasus walks. 'Just see what you can do, you'll soon get used to it'. :Sick

Why don't you come have a chat to the guy at our DO who broke his hand in a fall last week, or the 2nd guy who cut his leg open falling off his bike on the ice, or the third guy who banged his knee up badly on Wed then broke a rib on the Thursday in delivery falls in the snow.

Lets call anyone concerned about H&S a workshy layabout? TOTAL PROPAGANDA. :funneh
opgpat
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Posties can make an individual decision not to deliver to single addresses or roads if they believe their H&S may be at risk.
True but also if you have serious concerns about even walking out the DO or getting to your 1st drop you have the right to refuse on H&S grounds. The legislation protecting workers states we can refuse if we have concerns for our safety and that would include even walking across the yard if it's icy. You CAN NOT be ordered out into unsafe conditions against you better judgement. It's every workers call, not managers or ANYONE else.
norbert
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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opgpat wrote:
swpostie wrote: I've been able to deliver to every address on my route - it's been icy and slippery but I haven't fallen over.

It's surprising what you can do when you put your mind to it.
Mmm this sounds very similar to what a manager said to me once about new pegasus walks. 'Just see what you can do, you'll soon get used to it'. :Sick

Why don't you come have a chat to the guy at our DO who broke his hand in a fall last week, or the 2nd guy who cut his leg open falling off his bike on the ice, or the third guy who banged his knee up badly on Wed then broke a rib on the Thursday in delivery falls in the snow.

Lets call anyone concerned about H&S a workshy layabout? TOTAL PROPAGANDA. :funneh
Everyone is different - some people are nimble on their feet but still have had falls , some are flat footed , people walk in different ways which affects how steady they are on iced up slush , that's before you have any weight on either shoulder or are leaning forward pushing something .

There's a possibility of straining or damaging themselves when they grab hold of a hedge or lampost trying to correct a slip . There's also ways of falling properly , some people may have martial arts training , some may have been taught in the services , some won't know how to .

This is instruction for Ice Skaters as to how to fall - maybe this is more constructive than calling staff drama queens , lazy , professional skivvers / claimers , malingerers etc :hmmmm

http://www.wikihow.com/Fall-and-Recover ... all-on-Ice" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wear gloves, wristguards, knee, or elbow pads. These will protect you from getting hurt if you fall.
2Put your hands on your waist or in front of you when you are skating.
3Practice falling. Try to fall without hurting yourself. First try falling without skates and then move on to fall with skates. Try falling on different speeds with your skates on.
4Bend your knees and go into a dip position. If you know you are about to fall just go into a dip position.
5Fall to the side and lean forward as you fall on the ice. This will lower the chances of you getting injured.
6Recover from your fall. Turn over on your hands and knees.
7Take one foot and place it between your hands.
8Take the other foot and place it between your hands. Applying pressure to your toes and Using your toe picks will help you so you won't slide.
bandit650
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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In all seriousness a manager in the area that is part of ours said to staff they had to go out in the crap conditions,now we have not had it as bad as alot of you,we have had snow but we are lucky here we don't seem to get hammered as much,in saying that one of the staff had a fall which resulted in a broken leg,the bone that broke was seen poking out through the skin!now i don't mind working but what happened here was stupid beyond belief the manager is RM all the way through his sad body he really believes the upper lot will look at him and take him seriously,what do you think his chances are after this,we have systems in place and laws are there to protect people like him from managers like that but he will get a pat on the back and still get his bonus for making what now appears to be a very poor decision which has resulted in a member of staff being injured for no real reason other than the mail must get delivered.
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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& don't forget the stage I or II he will recieve for his pain,feckin wonkers :arrrghhh
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markt68
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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delboy wrote::crazy: :shock: Peter, 51, and Jill, 49, met on the job and even had a "postie" wedding in their uniforms. :crazy: :shock:
I know theese two and they are very very very sad indeed. the problem is they look like brother and sister.
Now an EX postie and proud to be a water sampler.
dvbuk55
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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markt68 wrote:
delboy wrote::crazy: :shock: Peter, 51, and Jill, 49, met on the job and even had a "postie" wedding in their uniforms. :crazy: :shock:
I know theese two and they are very very very sad indeed. the problem is they look like brother and sister.
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Puppetmaster
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Re: Pat on back for sledging posties

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It appears their have been many accidents that are legaly notifiable notifiable to H+S. I hope prosecutions under H +S law are under taken ,and these poor injured people seek maximum compensastion.

I also hope action is taken against Managers who sent staff out in this severe weather.I am confident no Managers who sent their staff out in this appalling weather had not carried out up to date risk assements for these conditions or else they would not have been sent out !

In our office a handfull of us refused to go out and preassure was put upon us daily to go out regardless,and if in a minority of a handfull of people, things are very very difficult.
Some idiots completed daily and did overtime!

I think Managers cover themselves by saying if it looks dangerous dont go their.Well my whole walk lookeed very dangerorous and I WAS TOLD TO GO OUT AND DELIVER.

Also must not forget it was not just the poor conditions on foot,it was the severe freezing Temp ,being out their for 3.5 hours,no hot drink available ,no toilet facilites,
and when you cut off 20 questions from Managers.

Also we had to carry a Bag in these conditions say min of 10 KG,we were not given ice shoes ,despite asking for them,or any other equipment suitable for ice and snow.

As you would expect ,their seems to be little or any communication from the union about this.
But I Guess the severe weather was another local issue even though it affected most of the Country! still local though!!