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rhino49
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Post by rhino49 »

Thanks for the info Lovejoy
Whilst I voted no, I will accept the will of the majority and the changes that that entails. However I will not accept, and neither will most of my colleagues the expected leaping for joy that will be exhibited by the managers (not all) who think this is a charter for pressurising us into ruining our lives for their benefit. I recall words like "consultation, negotiation and in the spirit of good relations" being mentioned somewhere in the agreement - make sure those words do not leave our vocabulary - OR THEIRS !!!
We wish to serve - but we will not be servile
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Post by pinstripe »

Damm, damm, damm. Well lads and lasses,stick to doing the job right and we'll be better off than the management lackeys that have ruined this job for us all. You reap what you sow, they're going to be stuffed like a turkey and it serves them right. Maybe this is the time to start being as selfish as them, will I take any pleasure from saying "I told you so"? No, but I'll definitely tell them.
Now is the time we are going to need this site, we may have lost the battle, hell we may have lost the war, but that is no reason to give up. First thing to do is withdraw your goodwill and work to your 318. (Just don't tell the screws and they can't class it as Unofficial Industrial Action, remember you've got a life outside of RM) :evil/mad
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Post by DUNDEEPOSTIE »

I pray this time Lovejoy is wrong. But something inside me says he's correct.

If this is indeed the case "I'll get me coat!" :no no
rhino49
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Post by rhino49 »

I'm not going anywhere - no one forces me out of a job I love. Stay and fight lads and lasses - we are what binds this business together - the managers and directors are transient and will go when they get bored , paid off or pissed off at how resilient we are.
We wish to serve - but we will not be servile
The FraudSquad
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Post by The FraudSquad »

disappointed with the outcome....but we just got make sure we get the best possible set up and dont give much leeway for flexibilty!

first things first, each office must make sure that their start times are reverted to the original time from this saturday as per the agreement!!!!!!!
tatt
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Post by tatt »

Bet this time next year you won't be able to find one person who voted for this pile of shite
UNION JACK
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lovejoy

Post by UNION JACK »

Well MR LOVEJOY you've got your way ,now lets see all these union officials do some real work and start protecting all us posties ,ha,ha thats a laugh ,i wont hold my breath .THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!! :cry :cry
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Post by larsson1971 »

Lets see what shite they do to us now. :lfo :cfo :Boo hoo!
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lovejoy
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Re: lovejoy

Post by lovejoy »

UNION JACK wrote:Well MR LOVEJOY you've got your way ,now lets see all these union officials do some real work and start protecting all us posties ,ha,ha thats a laugh ,i wont hold my breath .THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!!! :cry :cry
Why don't you stand forward yourself then mate? You seem to have plenty of opinions! Or are you just one of the idiots who like to load the gun for others to fire!?

I'd say if push came to shove you'd be nowhere near the heat of the battle when it mattered!! :Very Happy
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Post by POSTMAN »

TO: ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS


Dear Colleague

Pay and Modernisation Agreement/Network 08 Agreement
Ballot Results

Please find attached the ballot results from the Independent Scrutineer for the above mentioned agreements. The results are as follows;-

Pay and Modernisation Agreement

Do you accept the Agreement?

YES 51,260 64%
NO 28,894 36%
Spoilt papers 156
Total ballot papers dispatched 126,035
Total ballot papers received 80,310 64%

Network 07 and Network Drivers Pay 08

Do you accept the Agreement?

Those voting YES 752 66%
Those voting NO 387 34%
Spoilt ballot papers 2
Total ballot papers dispatched 2,100
Total ballot papers received 1,141 54%


The full results as signed off by the Independent Scrutineer are attached

Both agreements have now been endorsed by the membership. We would like to place on record our thanks to all representatives and members who have supported the Union throughout the dispute.




It is now important we all concentrate on delivering the agreements and dealing with the other major challenges facing the Union’s membership.

We will be contacting Royal Mail asking them to ensure the pay increases, lump sum and back pay are incorporated into pay before Christmas.

Could all Branches please ensure the ballot results are circulated to every workplace and brought to the attention of the membership as soon as possible.

Yours sincerely

Dave Ward Billy Hayes
Deputy General Secretary (P) General Secretary




Mr J East
National Organising Secretary
CWU
150 The Broadway
Wimbledon
London SW19 1RX


27th November 2007


Dear Mr East

CWU ROYAL MAIL PAY AND MODERNISATION AGREEMENT 2007 / 2008

Please find attached the Scrutineer’s report for the above ballot.

The number of ballot papers distributed to members is as follows:

Main distribution 125948
Supplementaries 87
Total distribution 126035

Yours sincerely


Anne Hock
Independent Scrutineer

COMMUNICATION WORKERS UNION

CWU – ROYAL MAIL PAY AND MODERNISATION AGREEMENT 2007/ 2008

SCRUTINEER’S REPORT

Do you accept the Agreement?

YES 51260 64%
NO 28894
Spoilt ballot papers 156
Total ballot papers received 80310 64%

I am satisfied that there are no reasonable grounds for believing that there was any contravention of a requirement imposed by or under any enactment in relation to the ballot.

I am satisfied that the arrangements made with respect to the production, storage, distribution, return or other handling of the voting papers used in the ballot, and the arrangements for the counting of the votes, included all such security arrangements as were reasonably practicable for the purpose of minimising the risk that any unfairness or malpractice might occur.

I am satisfied that I have been able to carry out the functions conferred on me by the CWU without any interference from the trade union or any of its members, officials or employees.

Certified by:

Anne Hock
Independent Scrutineer

27th November 2007
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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nelson
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Post by nelson »

Thanks lovejoy

I do believe this is a black day for both the workers and this union. But we live in a democracy so we will have to get on with it Image
NG16
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Post by NG16 »

Oh No Were All Doomed!!!!!!!!!!! :cry
dinho1
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Post by dinho1 »

WE ARE DOOMED. THIS IS BOLLOX , I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO ONE YES VOTER AT OUR OFFICE AND YET 64% OF THE FECKAS HAVE VOTED YES!! I FEEL SICK NOW. :cfo :lfo :confused :sad:
dellman
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Post by dellman »

Add me to the list who voted NO....a very definate NO...this is just how the WAY BACKWARDS agreement got in...not sure what the future holds for any of us now.... :d'oh!
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Post by IWW Fellow Worker »

Pete c wrote:We're doomed!!! :pray
No we're not. We've lost this vote, but we can bring things around to our way just by doing the job properly. Don't work a single second without pay and don't carry a bag which is one gramme overweight. I won't be covering anyone elses delivery, and neither will anyone else with more than two brain cells.
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