IWW stickers

[borders]

i dont need to be a member of any duffle coat wearing Marxist left wing group to realise what is going on, maybe you need reminding Bailing out the Banks , Wars , deceiteful politicians and outrageous attacks on the working class . the only thing that confuses me is what or who you are trying to defend Mr Tman ?

[Tman]

the only thing that confuses me is what or who you are trying to defend Mr Tman ?

Nobody. It only confuses you (and you're not alone ) because you seem to be stuck in the mind-set of yes-no, black-white, or Commie-Nazi, whereas most people don't tend to think in absolutes all the time.

As history shows, neither the far Left or Right can provide all or even any answers, but when all either can currently offer is typified by "joke" Marxist articles about "happy strikers", or the appearance on Question Time of the odious fool Griffin, then you know there has to be a workable middle ground because there's certainly nothing worthwhile at either end..........

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Barry, do you have a problem with Royal Mail employees being involved with organisations opposed to capitalism? Do you think people who support such organisations should not involve themselves with, for example: The Anti-War movement, Unite Against Fascism, Jobs not Bombs, Leeds and Liverpool striking council workers, Antifa, the First Bus or London Tube disputes or any other campaigns not involving their own place of work? Not everyone is like Tman or Night Tonic and think the sun shines out of the collective arses of bosses and Governments.

These stickers were designed to be stuck on members letterboxes on strike days in areas where strike breakers might be working. Personally, I'm not bothered if various socialist parties and groups want to support postal workers. Let's face it, Royal Mail have enough help from the press and TV companies to get their message across, not to mention dupes like T*** Man and Shite Tonic.

[Tman]

not to mention dupes like T*** Man and Shite Tonic.

Oh dear.... back to that stuff again, then?

The cut and thrust of well-reasoned debate.......ever thought of trying it one day.. ?

[Fred B]

Barry, do you have a problem with Royal Mail employees being involved with organisations opposed to capitalism? Do you think people who support such organisations should not involve themselves with, for example: The Anti-War movement, Unite Against Fascism, Jobs not Bombs, Leeds and Liverpool striking council workers, Antifa, the First Bus or London Tube disputes or any other campaigns not involving their own place of work? Not everyone is like Tman or Night Tonic and think the sun shines out of the collective arses of bosses and Governments.

These stickers were designed to be stuck on members letterboxes on strike days in areas where strike breakers might be working. Personally, I'm not bothered if various socialist parties and groups want to support postal workers. Let's face it, Royal Mail have enough help from the press and TV companies to get their message across, not to mention dupes like T*** Man and Shite Tonic.

Fair points, especially that last sentence. Seeing as it looks as if we've been sold out by the Labour Party members on the EC, we'll need the help again after Christmas!

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Seeing as it looks as if we've been sold out by the Labour Party members on the EC, we'll need the help again after Christmas!

You won't be sending the Wimbledon Branch a Christmas Card then?

[Barry Trotter]

Barry, do you have a problem with Royal Mail employees being involved with organisations opposed to capitalism? Do you think people who support such organisations should not involve themselves with, for example: The Anti-War movement, Unite Against Fascism, Jobs not Bombs, Leeds and Liverpool striking council workers, Antifa, the First Bus or London Tube disputes or any other campaigns not involving their own place of work? Not everyone is like Tman or Night Tonic and think the sun shines out of the collective arses of bosses and Governments.

Not at all. Everyone is entitled to their political views. I do have a problem if they take action which I think will harm our cause. If I was a customer going up to post christmas cards say. I would think twice about posting because I would think that this sticker, saying its scab mail, would mean it would be harming the postal workers cause. As I stated earlier I think more mail going in the boxes means more boxes RM have to empty whilst we are on strike. Its up to the induvidual if they want to put these stickers on their own letterboxes on strike days and remove them when we are not on strike but they shouldnt be on posting boxes.

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Not at all. Everyone is entitled to their political views. I do have a problem if they take action which I think will harm our cause. If I was a customer going up to post christmas cards say. I would think twice about posting because I would think that this sticker, saying its scab mail, would mean it would be harming the postal workers cause. As I stated earlier I think more mail going in the boxes means more boxes RM have to empty whilst we are on strike. Its up to the induvidual if they want to put these stickers on their own letterboxes on strike days and remove them when we are not on strike but they shouldnt be on posting boxes.

A very fair post! By the way Baz, I am a postman! Like yourself I earn my money, not like those desk bound lackeys and bosses narks with their fake figures about mail volumes falling!

[borders]

Not at all. Everyone is entitled to their political views. I do have a problem if they take action which I think will harm our cause. If I was a customer going up to post christmas cards say. I would think twice about posting because I would think that this sticker, saying its scab mail, would mean it would be harming the postal workers cause. As I stated earlier I think more mail going in the boxes means more boxes RM have to empty whilst we are on strike. Its up to the induvidual if they want to put these stickers on their own letterboxes on strike days and remove them when we are not on strike but they shouldnt be on posting boxes.

A very fair post! By the way Baz, I am a postman! Like yourself I earn my money, not like those desk bound lackeys and bosses narks with their fake figures about mail volumes falling!

Ah no , dont start him off again !!!!

[borders]

the only thing that confuses me is what or who you are trying to defend Mr Tman ?

Nobody. It only confuses you (and you're not alone ) because you seem to be stuck in the mind-set of yes-no, black-white, or Commie-Nazi, whereas most people don't tend to think in absolutes all the time.

As history shows, neither the far Left or Right can provide all or even any answers, but when all either can currently offer is typified by "joke" Marxist articles about "happy strikers", or the appearance on Question Time of the odious fool Griffin, then you know there has to be a workable middle ground because there's certainly nothing worthwhile at either end..........

fair comment,but dont stop there then Mr Tman, what is this workable middle ground ?, lets have an insight- educate the masses......

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Ah no , dont start him off again !!!!

Me? Let him go on if he wants. It's just like a WTLL. Pay no attention and ignore him.

[Tman]

All night long for the combined brain-power of this double act,and this is all you two can come up with?

Pretty stale stuff when all's said and done.

[borders]

still interested in this workable middle- ground ?

[Fred B]

still interested in this workable middle- ground ?

I'd give him and his friends on the RM board six feet of it.