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Crisis in morale for Royal Mail as it tries to avoid strike.

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johno47
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Post by johno47 »

Spot on Tommo, when proffit is put before public service, then your asking for trouble, how much proffit is enough, thats the question, the answer is if RM had made £600 million proffit this year, they would still want more next year, thats the nature of the beast, they will keep asking for more savings every year until this once great and valued public service is run into the ground and theres nothing left to make savings on...UNITY IS STRENGTH.
vigilante
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Post by vigilante »





im sorry but it has to be said,
i look at the latest courier and i think who are these f****g w******s smiling up
with the look at me face im a good boy, love the business, i'm getting an award.
look long brothers, these are the f*****s walking across the picket lines soon.
:mad :mad :mad :mad
F0zziebear
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re: What exactly is public about this service?

Post by F0zziebear »

What proportion of the volume of mail collected/process/delivered each day is a public service?

The envelopes from banks offering new credit cards with 0% balance transfers, extra credit. Deals from mobile phone companies?

The vast majority of what goes through the system is advertising, occassionally dressed up as something else. Let's face it very little volume is purely communication which the public requires.

Don't get me wrong the universal postal service is still required but let's not fool ourselves. Without the big banks volume we would not be able to sustain a network to deliver the other mail. That is simply a matter of fact.

Employing 150,000 postmen/women on a permenant wage at about £7.50 p/h everyday of the year is a huge fixed expense. It's not flexible as most of the 150,000 have a specific route to deliver. So regardless of whether 1 item or 80 billion items are delivered each year the costs are the same.

I don't agree with the way RM exec. have approached this as all they did was put off the inevitable and now they have a massive step change to implement, and unsurprisingly you lot are not happy. If these changes had evolved over a longer period of time then it would be easier to adjust to (basic change theory not rocket science). Instead Big Al & Adam took the easy option of ahcking away at managerial jobs for 4 years without seriously changing the operational environment.

You reap what you sow and that goes for everyone. The banks will possibly end up under-cutting the high quality service they crave!

F0zz without a battery pack and fading into the distance
ROCKY
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Post by ROCKY »

hey fozzie hows working life treating you
F0zziebear
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re: A man has to earn a crust

Post by F0zziebear »

Working life is OK at the moment. Bills need to be paid etc.... I remember getting a good piece advice from a senior person in Marketing. Thought he was a slimy git, but anyway he said always make sure you have transferable skills. So that has stuck with me and makes it easier to move between industry's and sectors.

How's life for everyone else? It seems you are getting yourselves into a thick lather over the current situation. History indicates that whatever solution is found no-one is ever 100% happy. Both sides will put a spin on it as a victory. Supporters of either side will digest the propaganda put out, and you move on until the next lurch. A mature organisation is able to evolve, and not have to revolt, unfortauntely Royal Mail is a long way from being that.

Until high tea

Lord F0zz
johno47
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Post by johno47 »

Hang on a minute Fozzie, unless im mistaken we are still employed by the goverment, its been less than a year since competition arrived and already your saying we are not a public service , we are, it doesnt matter how much mail the banks put out, we are the only ones who give a universal service and deliver it all, so if we dont deliver it who does???
a public service is a service that is offered to the general public for the benefit of the general public, nobody else offers that nobody, is refuse collection classed as a public service, yes, if we were not a public service then RM would not have to provide a universal service, the investment that you talk about should have begun in 98 when RM were given commercial freedom, instead narrow minded bosses bought companys all over the world and then sold them at a loss, and were all paying the price...UNITY IS STRENGTH.
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Post by twoloops »

johno47 wrote: ↑
20 Jun 2007, 22:40
Spot on Tommo, when proffit is put before public service, then your asking for trouble, how much proffit is enough, thats the question, the answer is if RM had made £600 million proffit this year, they would still want more next year, thats the nature of the beast, they will keep asking for more savings every year until this once great and valued public service is run into the ground and theres nothing left to make savings on...UNITY IS STRENGTH.
Wow 15 years ago :shock:
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Re: Crisis in morale for Royal Mail as it tries to avoid strike.

Post by pieoftheday »

NEWS wrote: ↑
18 Jun 2007, 16:12
TIMES ONLINE

Royal Mail faces a crisis in staff morale amid last-ditch attempts to avert the first national postal strike in 11 years, leaked internal documents have revealed.

The organisation’s monthly barometer of staff satisfaction levels found that just 29 per cent of staff believe that they are valued by management. About 21 per cent of Royal Mail workers say that they have witnessed bullying and harrassment.

The dissatisfaction comes amid the threat of a national postal strike over job cuts and pay. The Communication Workers Union will set dates for the strike this week unless Royal Mail raises its pay offer of 2.5 per cent.

This weekend Adam Crozier, Royal Mail’s chief executive, wrote to the union offering talks at the conciliation service Acas. However, Royal Mail is making clear that it will not raise its offer but only explain further the current offer to the union at Acas.

The internal staff morale survey is a blow for Royal Mail’s senior management, which has tried to make the organisation a more attractive place to work.

The CWU’s postal executive is due to meet on Thursday to set strike dates unless an agreement is reached at Acas. However, a spokesman for Royal Mail said: “Royal Mail is contacting Acas not to make any concessions in our position but to try to explain to the union once again the very serious challenges the business now faces in an open, competitive market and the huge damage a strike would do to all of our people and to our customers.â€


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