PHG Selection Process

[postmandick]

Hi simple question or is it

we have a guy who left the business didn't like where he worked and came back us after about 8 months

But how to calculate his length of service is it accumulated (both dates together) or the longest single stint

Thanks

[fishtank]

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• Periods before a break of contract (section 6). Here the general position is that such
periods should be excluded, but with scope to agree locally to vary this in exceptional
circumstances (an example might be someone who had to give up work due to serious
domestic reasons but is later re-employed)

[bertieboy]

He starts back right at the bottom of the pile,in a manner of speaking.

[loverman shabba]

he'll be back to the bottom of the food chain

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Its the current stint only - unless he had a really exceptional reason for leaving and rejoining.

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2. DEFINITION OF SENIORITY

Section 13 of the Way of Working agreement sets out the new definition of seniority, based
in all cases on length of service. The general position is that all service since joining the
business counts for seniority purposes, whether full- or part-time, with the exception of:

• Periods worked on a lower grade than the current one (section 4 of the agreement).
Note that for this purpose all the grades being assimilated into the new Operational
Grade (i.e. PMN, PHG, SL1-6, Cadet, and the part-time equivalents) are treated as
equivalent, as are the three grades being assimilated into the new Support Grade
• Periods worked on a casual contract (section 6)
• Periods of career breaks or sabbaticals (section 6)
• Periods before a break of contract (section 6). Here the general position is that such
periods should be excluded, but with scope to agree locally to vary this in exceptional
circumstances (an example might be someone who had to give up work due to serious
domestic reasons but is later re-employed)

The new definition of seniority is the only one that may be used for the grades concerned,
and the new seniority lists must therefore be used for all processes where seniority is
employed as a selection mechanism. Offices may not use alternative lists based on different
locally derived criteria, since this would be contrary to the nationally agreed definition. Note
also that seniority will not be used for leave selection (except possibly to allocate employees
into rotating groups) once local leave selection processes have been reviewed. This will be
necessary to conform with the criteria set out in the agreement on Annual Leave: “all
employees will be included on an equal basis”.

Where several employees started on the same day, the following factors will determine the
relative order: firstly, any periods of Post Office service on other grades, secondly, earliest
date of selection (i.e. of interview) and thirdly, earliest date of birth.

[PhilthyPhil]

He goes to the bottom of the seniority list. His annual leave entitlement will be based on total service though.

[thechemisyshop]

He goes to the bottom of the seniority list. His annual leave entitlement will be based on total service though.

was just going to say that ,, i have 15 in my current office ,i had 3 in my previous so for holiday entitlement its 18 years ,, there were a lot of heads getting scratched when boys that started the same time as me found out i was getting more holidays than them ,, it will happen again in 2 years when it goes up to 6 weeks

[Bahia Feliz]

I know a postie who's 2 lengths of service add up to over 30 years,He went on a 30 year service 'do' to the races recently.

[Hawkey47]

What is the criteria for filling a vacant PHG post.

Is it Seniority or some other process.

Many thanks

[Hawkey47]

What is the process for filling a vacant PHG role.

Seniority or is this something else.

Thanks

[aiden01]

What is the criteria for filling a vacant PHG post.

Is it Seniority or some other process.

Many thanks

there is no phg posts anymore

[Hawkey47]

There is in my unit.

Does callers DOM support work etc.

[aiden01]

There is in my unit.

Does callers DOM support work etc.

phg,s were done away with under the way forward agreement in 2000

[vanman90]

Seniority unless there is a postman unable to work outdoor due to medical reasons ect.....

[Hawkey47]

We have a person who does the callers and DOM sSupport work.

We call him a PHG but i guess he is not anymore.

How would this vacancy be filled.

What is the criteria