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nelson
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Post by nelson »

This is just another lie.

Pay special

On Friday we sent you a copy of the letter going to postmen and women over
the weekend. It obviously had an impact because we have already had a huge
response from our people.

As we thought, our people have been persuaded by the union's line that a
'yes' vote will strengthen their negotiating position. They have also been
'reassured' by the union's line that voting 'yes' will not result in a
strike.

We thought it would therefore be helpful to give you some more clarity
around the legal position, which is as follows:

* The union can only ask its members to take the action set out on the
ballot paper.
* The question asked was: 'Are you prepared to take industrial action
consisting of a strike?'. A strike is legally defined as 'any concerted
stoppage of work'.
* If the CWU intended to ask its members to take other forms of industrial
action - such as work to rule or an overtime ban - they would have had to
ask a different and separate question on the ballot paper ie: 'Are you
prepared to take part in industrial action short of a strike?'

This is the law.

So, we seem to have a lot of people who have voted for a strike without
actually wanting to take one. This is unfortunate, but this is why our
communications were clear and consistent throughout the ballot: a vote for a
strike will mean a strike.


Can you believe the lengths that they are willing to go to?
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Post by nelson »

Madelin4 I think if they did that vote again itwould be even more overwhelming, members are fed up with to 2 clowns. But the patronizing tone of the letters etc now this to the managers too pass on to staff. How was anyone lied too, nobody said there will not be a strike, most hope there will not, and anyone that voted for strike action and then got in touch with RM saying they were tricked is telling porkeys. :so there :so there
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Post by POSTMAN »

Noooooooooooo it's bull s**t,completely ignore it.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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Post by nelson »

I did but how many will believe when the manager reads it out
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nelson wrote:I did but how many will believe when the manager reads it out
None - no one believes the manager these days anyway.
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Post by madelin4 »

Dont worry Nelson, i am sticking with all u guys! i dont believe many letters that R M send us, so just hope that everyone will catch onto it eventually....its like most things in life, everything is just turned so people get even more frustrated!! :Confused
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Post by coppertop »

As I was waiting to go to health and safety reps course this morning I listened into the worktime learning that was being held ,well the line manager actually told the staff that they could not work too rule only go out on strike. Well there you go we will be put under all kinds of pressure to not to go out on srike they are looking for the weakest link in the chain , so if you think someone is worried about going on strike help to boost their confidence and get them back on track. We really need to stick together this is really crunch time for all of us. If the comedy duo get to win this time we might as well make the union redundant. And what a shame cos Ithink they do a grand job :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Post by POSTMAN »

I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Post by mailman71 »

the gruesome twosome are desperate they just will not accept the union won the vote fair and square
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Post by Bloke7 »

Yep, they seem to be more hellbent (surprising for a responsible employer) on getting us out on strike!

They should be listening (like work time listening...) and learning from the fact that the staff have voted for strike action.

Instead of trying to bully the union and the staff into a corner. I thought they were working to rid the workplace of bullying?
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Post by nelson »

[quote]I thought they were working to rid the workplace of bullying?

Employee to employee yes. Management to employee no. Its a tactic and listening to Big Al, he does it all the time. God knows what he must be like as a boss at Head office. ;liar ;liar ;liar
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Post by Carnoustie »

But can anyone on here state with absolute certainty that the legal position isn't as they are portraying it ?
We might not like hearing it, but if we voted for a STRIKE, then maybe for once Big Al and Little Adam are telling the truth about this ? :shock:

It would explain why they seem to be going after any CWU officials who could - in their opinion - be inciting (their word, not mine) people to take 'illegal' action ( see thread http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... 2665#12665 ) .

RM could take legal action that could tie-up the CWU in court for months, with the threat of heavy fines. It's clear what their tactics might be ...

1. Unfairly put just one CWU official on suspension without pay
2. Thus provoking a walkout by members seeking his reinstatement
3. Seek a court injunction against the CWU for 'orchestrating' illegal unofficial industrial action

:mad :mad :mad

IT'S A TRAP. DON'T PLAY INTO THEIR HANDS GUYS ! BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY WHEN THE SCREWS OR THEIR BLUE-EYED BOYS ARE LISTENING :wink:
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Post by Rabmac »

do es anyone really believe that if the vote had went against the Union Al and his puppets would not for one moment have hesitated to be even more bullish than they already are.

He would have imposed the pay offer,

Ripped the heart out of this industry

set us up for a sell off

pocketed a good pay_off himself

Get himself a peerage



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STRIKE!

Post by mdtomuk »

LET'S GET ON STRIKE! BRING IT ON! SHOVE IT UP 'EM!!! :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
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Post by st postie »

i dont belive a word these tossers will try anything to twist and turn there way out of things they should be at the table talking to the cwu 77% is amassive kick in the balls for royalmail they twist the figures claiming 22.000 posties are not union members and dont want a strike so why didnt them 22.000 posties join the union and vote no ..................
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