Member of the press:ON HERE!

[POSTMAN]

We have someone from the press on here,they haven't posted yet and i haven't had time to contact them properly,will do tonight.

Leave some comments in this thread and i'll point him to it.
You never know.

Try not to go off topic ect so it's easier to read and so on,you know what i mean.

[POSTMAN]

Dear Adam and Allan

Please read this and take it seriously. I know thet Royal Mail Managers are monitoring this site and if you both are not, then I live in hope someone passes this to you.

My personal belief, which is as valid as either of yours, is that you are now in a position where you KNOW that Industrial Action is at the forefront of ALL your employees minds by now. Some of them, enough to cripple the network, are willing to lose their hardearned pay and show their dissatisfaction by striking.

Why should so many of your employees be so unhappy? You offer them an effective pay cut of 2.3% and desire to introduce a Business Plan that I doubt would stand up to independent scrutiny. The Federation of Small Businesses Chairman has spoken - does what he says give you cause to question your next move?

If you do not return to the negotiatons table then I can see but one outcome. The Government will intervene and tell you both (if indeed you are still around) to sort it to our MUTUAL SATISFACTION. If you are not willing THE GOVERNMENT WILL DO IT THEMSELVES.

Please take this seriously.

Please do the right thing - return to the table.

Last chance.

Let's have a bit of Dignity and Respect - you owe us that.

I've put this in from codebreaker,top post.

[bristolchris]

One of the big problems in this saga in which we now find ourselves, is the fact that we are here as a result of the Postal Regulator allowing our most profitable business to be Cherry Picked by our rivals without any thinking of the long term effect on the U.S.O. If we as a company are to survive we must be allowed to make a fair profit on the work that we do!

If we do not make a profit on the service that we provide, you know `who` is going to take the easy way out, that means further job loses.

Instead of going to his employers and stating this simple fact, he will continue to draw his salary by default! Yes we can modernise but a `Service` such as ours can not always be provided, without escaping the big issue, this costs money! and does not always equate to profit!

In my IMO this means the Government has to come clean. If they want this company to make a profit without huge reductions in Staff and Service. They have to admit a mistake, WHAT! WOULD THEY EVER!

People say lets privatise Royal Mail, oh yes? who on this Forum pays less for their:
1. Water Bill
2. Gas Bill
3. Electricity Bill

I could go on, but you get the point? If you want a free market the Consumer always ends up paying more! How else wold Commercial Companies survive? they have shareholders to consider!


So at the moment it seems to me that it is only us Posties and our Union who seem to really care about our customers! and that is why we are in the invidious position of being `encouraged` by our main Man to DO MORE FOR LESS.

Is it any wonder that we are now having to call for a Strike? This job is becoming more physically demanding by the week! with the amount of work we are having to carry, without the correct tools for the job.

[KawasakiKid]

Mr. Mediaman, Look into how much Royal Mail rely on workers who work unpaid overtime ie:- start early-use their own cars-do not take mealbreaks etc. If you look around these forums you will soon realise that a lot of money is saved by RM because of this, I'm talking many millions. Surely no business is going to survive for very long against the so-called competition, with a reliance on workers who carry on with practices as mentioned. Up to 30000 cars are being used daily by these delivery staff, who have the alternative of an official postal transport which will save these unnecessary journeys. How many tons of carbon gas do you think are being emitted by these vehicles. Do you not think the government are being somewhat hypocritical especially as it's leader is currently travelling the world with a climate change message.---------------KWAK

[deadbox]

Royal mail business plan over the next 5 years :
Take 9 F/T postmen , make the first 2 redundant ,make the next 6 part time, leaving 1 full time job out of 9.
On top of this give the postmen 2.5% (£8) increase,however remove night duty allowance,remove driving allowance, deliver 5 lots of door2door items but only get paid for 3 of them leaving the postie about £20-£30 p/w worse off.
Add in a further £350 Million in savings in the first year.
Add in a £400 - tax local bonus if targets are met.
Add in a £400 - tax national bonus if targets are met.
( but nobody know what the targets are )
Cover 20% of another delivery for FREE if someone is off sick / on holiday.
Less collections from boxes.
Mail to arrive another 2 hours later than now.
Fewer Post Offices for the public to use.
Fund Mr. crozier's £1 Million wage ( one of the highest paid civil servants ).
PENSION : RM took a 15 year cont. holiday but members still paid in every week - leaving a £3.3 Billion black hole (now members have to accept lower benifits / increased cont.)
All this for a basic of £252 take home pay
Thats why I and so many others backed industial action

[heapsy]

One of the big problems in this saga in which we now find ourselves, is the fact that we are here as a result of the Postal Regulator allowing our most profitable business to be Cherry Picked by our rivals without any thinking of the long term effect on the U.S.O. If we as a company are to survive we must be allowed to make a fair profit on the work that we do!

If we do not make a profit on the service that we provide, you know `who` is going to take the easy way out, that means further job loses.

Instead of going to his employers and stating this simple fact, he will continue to draw his salary by default! Yes we can modernise but a `Service` such as ours can not always be provided, without escaping the big issue, this costs money! and does not always equate to profit!

In my IMO this means the Government has to come clean. If they want this company to make a profit without huge reductions in Staff and Service. They have to admit a mistake, WHAT! WOULD THEY EVER!

People say lets privatise Royal Mail, oh yes? who on this Forum pays less for their:
1. Water Bill
2. Gas Bill
3. Electricity Bill

I could go on, but you get the point? If you want a free market the Consumer always ends up paying more! How else wold Commercial Companies survive? they have shareholders to consider!


So at the moment it seems to me that it is only us Posties and our Union who seem to really care about our customers! and that is why we are in the invidious position of being `encouraged` by our main Man to DO MORE FOR LESS.

Is it any wonder that we are now having to call for a Strike? This job is becoming more physically demanding by the week! with the amount of work we are having to carry, without the correct tools for the job.

Absolutely Brilliant mate, well thought out, and well put, Brilliant

[jafferpants]

The bottom line is this. Ask anyone in the country would they do a job on top of their own and not get paid for it.The answer is simple NO. Then dont bloody well expect us to.

[POSTMAN]

But the Communication Workers’ Union (CWU) is calling for an immediate £80-a-week pay rise to bring staff in line with the national pay average.

The above is from the Daily express,which is quite ironc,if you know what i mean.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

But the Communication Workers’ Union (CWU) is calling for an immediate £80-a-week pay rise to bring staff in line with the national pay average.

The above is from the Daily express,which is quite ironc,if you know what i mean.

and as everyone knows on here its wrong on 2 counts

1. Its not immediate its an aspiration for the next 5 years

2. Its not a demand but an aspiration.

Also I would have voted against IA if the offer was 2.5% with no strings attached I may even have accepted a pay freeze but who would accept a pay cut, which is what RM are really offering.

Under there present offer I would loose £12.50 a week early shift allowance. £20 - £30 on Doors to Doors and any overtime payments I am currently entitled to would disappear under their present offer. What would you vote in these circumstances. Also these Colleague shares we are being offered - we cant use them or get the dividends they promise for at least 5 years.

[gspot01]

i spoke to a traffic warden today who says they are going on strike for more money. They walk about all day with no loads on their backs, no responsibility to customers to get specials, recorded, and normal letters delivered correctly. The warden i spoke to said that traffic wardens in glasgow are getting over £9 an hour. Time we started ticketin cars as we walk past wi the post, maybe then the idiots at the top will realise that men only work well if they are getting a fair wage to live on, otherwise your mind is always thinking about finding another job with good money.

[goingpostal]

i think a lot of the problem's with the public perception is when ever it's on the local or national news, all the public see is that we have been offered a 2.5% payrise and we want more at the end of the day the union needs to make sure that the public is fully aware of the facts and tell people that we will accept the pay rise but

you might get your mail every day you might not
you WILL be getting your mail 2 hours later than you do now
You WILL be getting more leaflets through your letter box
there is a good chance the postman you know might never be seen again

i think if the public knew the facts we would get a hell of a lot more support and if we get the public backing then even better

has the union thought of a mass door to door posting explaining the facts' i for one hate door to door items but wouldn't mind delivering these

[johnston65]

Remember also to stop weekend working in MCs is a drop in quality as all the work that would have processed on the Sunday apart from the first class will now be delayed to the Monday. Write to your local newspapers and explain this and get in touch with local sympathetic groups and spread the message.

[billypants]

i spoke to a traffic warden today who says they are going on strike for more money. They walk about all day with no loads on their backs, no responsibility to customers to get specials, recorded, and normal letters delivered correctly. The warden i spoke to said that traffic wardens in glasgow are getting over £9 an hour. Time we started ticketin cars as we walk past wi the post, maybe then the idiots at the top will realise that men only work well if they are getting a fair wage to live on, otherwise your mind is always thinking about finding another job with good money.

who's gonna care if they walk out, most of us would be pretty bloody happy about it

[Pokemon Postmon]

Only slightly off-topic, but you said, "I know thet Royal Mail Managers are monitoring this site...". S'funny you should mention that. When I first talked about this site in work, the only person aware of it was, you guessed it, my Line Manager, and it seemed he was aware of it before myself too.
That aside...
:lfo

[POSTMAN]

Only slightly off-topic, but you said, "I know thet Royal Mail Managers are monitoring this site...". S'funny you should mention that. When I first talked about this site in work, the only person aware of it was, you guessed it, my Line Manager, and it seemed he was aware of it before myself too.
That aside...
:lfo

I've sent out LOADS of Flyers,and guys on here have as well,some may be on notice boards and word has spread on the screw hotline no doubt.
Shame they haven't the bottle to speak though and just lurk instead