UPDATE FOR ROYAL MAIL GROUP MEMBERS
CWU members will be aware of a communication issued yesterday by Royal Mail confirming they will no longer be seeking any further deployment of USO reform until 2026. This is a position the union communicated many weeks ago and it has now been confirmed openly by the business. This is welcomed. Our priority now will be fixing the issues in the USO pilot units. We want to make it clear to members that we will not be reaching an agreement on Royal Mail’s ODM model. It has failed.
At the same time, they point to these USO negotiations and their complexity as one reason for the delay in the implementation of resolutions for all outstanding issues from section 5 of the EP Group / CWU agreement - which of course includes the first step in equalising new entrants’ terms and conditions. We do not accept this position.
We are also extremely concerned at the continued degrading of quality of service across the UK which culminated last week in a record £21m fine from OFCOM. Every CWU member will know the reality is even worse than this with mail failures being in many cases underreported. This lack of honesty and integrity from Royal Mail continues to be a major concern for everybody who cares about the future of the business.
The CWU will continue to make the case in negotiations for the full implementation of the EP Group / CWU agreement at the earliest opportunity with any overdue issues like the new entrants’ terms and conditions being backdated as appropriate.
We will also be directly engaging the government now on the lack of progress since the EP Group takeover, the need for a complete overhaul in the way OFCOM regulate the postal industry and how we level the playing field and tackle unfair competition.
Our Postal Executive have agreed an extensive engagement plan with our members and all these issues, and we have today shared this with our branches.
In the coming days and weeks, we will directly engage with local representatives and members to ensure you are a key part of how we challenge Royal Mail, truly re-set employee and industrial relations and rebuild quality of service in our workplaces.
Our final message today is to thousands of new entrants across the country - the best way of delivering equalisation is by you joining the CWU. The company have already shown that if they believe they can avoid improving your terms and conditions they will. We will hold them to the words we have secured, and we will deliver fairness - every new entrant that joins strengthens our hand.
The CWU
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Boom the update
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tramssirhc
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That's even funnier than the last time pinky and perky issued a statement about their abject failure. Joining the CWU will make zero difference to post 2022 workers. It's an insult to our intelligence to suggest the way to secure parity is to give them pair of clowns 11 quid a month. If the CWU was serious about fighting for the post 2022 workers they'd let them join for a pound a week. Instead pinky and perky want workers on at least 50 quid a week less to give the CWU almost the same per week as the pre 2022 workers just to bank roll their final salary oensions. That's a piss take and the CWU is stuffed with pisstakers.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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RHONE
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Wasn't it them that agreed to the whole 2 tier work force in the first place , as we all no the only way they will level up is to take away ...... My guess first to go is the payed meal relief so many office's already have a 20min split letting people go home 20 min early
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qwerty2
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"the best way of delivering equalisation is by you joining the CWU.
The company have already shown that if they believe they can avoid improving your terms and conditions they will. We will hold them to the words we have secured, and we will deliver fairness - every new entrant that joins strengthens our hand"
strengthens your pockets
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chickenwittle
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No it wasn’t agreed by the CWU , it was implemented by Royal Mail as much as plenty on here would love to believe differently.RHONE wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 18:31Wasn't it them that agreed to the whole 2 tier work force in the first place , as we all no the only way they will level up is to take away ...... My guess first to go is the payed meal relief so many office's already have a 20min split letting people go home 20 min early
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tramssirhc
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Agreeing to something and remaining silent are a bit different. The CWU's silence in the workplace allowing the deployment of the post 2022 working conditions makes the CWU guilty of silence. Silence is acceptance, acceptance is agreement. So yeah, they have agreed to it all. Plus Ward and Walsh aren't telling the truth and dont release minutes of the meetings they have. The CWU is the problem. The CWU is fully informed of what the plans are. They've been told enough times yet Ward and Walsh still insist they are the injured party.RHONE wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 18:31Wasn't it them that agreed to the whole 2 tier work force in the first place , as we all no the only way they will level up is to take away ...... My guess first to go is the payed meal relief so many office's already have a 20min split letting people go home 20 min early
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RHONE
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So that being said are we not all in some serious doo doo if and when they just implement the next lot of changes pay cuts terms and conditions etc.. i.e when there obligation to abide runs out .chickenwittle wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 08:18No it wasn’t agreed by the CWU , it was implemented by Royal Mail as much as plenty on here would love to believe differently.RHONE wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 18:31Wasn't it them that agreed to the whole 2 tier work force in the first place , as we all no the only way they will level up is to take away ...... My guess first to go is the payed meal relief so many office's already have a 20min split letting people go home 20 min early
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A2B
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Did you not consider that was the case from day one of the takeover?
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Smoothbackground
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Acquiescence is the word you’re looking for. The CWU acquiesced. And yes, they did tacitly agree, encourage and welcome the new-entrant contracts being introduced as it meant the thorny and highly-contentious issue of Sunday working for legacy staff became a non-issue.tramssirhc wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 10:23Agreeing to something and remaining silent are a bit different. The CWU's silence in the workplace allowing the deployment of the post 2022 working conditions makes the CWU guilty of silence. Silence is acceptance, acceptance is agreement. So yeah, they have agreed to it all. Plus Ward and Walsh aren't telling the truth and dont release minutes of the meetings they have. The CWU is the problem. The CWU is fully informed of what the plans are. They've been told enough times yet Ward and Walsh still insist they are the injured party.RHONE wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 18:31Wasn't it them that agreed to the whole 2 tier work force in the first place , as we all no the only way they will level up is to take away ...... My guess first to go is the payed meal relief so many office's already have a 20min split letting people go home 20 min early
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tramssirhc
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Ah, Sundays, the issue that never was. Members were already working Sundays without any complaint.Smoothbackground wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 16:09Acquiescence is the word you’re looking for. The CWU acquiesced. And yes, they did tacitly agree, encourage and welcome the new-entrant contracts being introduced as it meant the thorny and highly-contentious issue of Sunday working for legacy staff became a non-issue.tramssirhc wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 10:23Agreeing to something and remaining silent are a bit different. The CWU's silence in the workplace allowing the deployment of the post 2022 working conditions makes the CWU guilty of silence. Silence is acceptance, acceptance is agreement. So yeah, they have agreed to it all. Plus Ward and Walsh aren't telling the truth and dont release minutes of the meetings they have. The CWU is the problem. The CWU is fully informed of what the plans are. They've been told enough times yet Ward and Walsh still insist they are the injured party.RHONE wrote: ↑21 Oct 2025, 18:31Wasn't it them that agreed to the whole 2 tier work force in the first place , as we all no the only way they will level up is to take away ...... My guess first to go is the payed meal relief so many office's already have a 20min split letting people go home 20 min early
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ted_e_bear
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No issue at all here, hardly any new contract folk do Sundays, lots of legacy offer to do it for the piss easy overtime. Win for Royal Mail as they get to pay a lower overtime rate, mind you if the do's were fully staffed they could force new contracts to do it as a normal working day.tramssirhc wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 19:10Ah, Sundays, the issue that never was. Members were already working Sundays without any complaint.Smoothbackground wrote: ↑22 Oct 2025, 16:09
Acquiescence is the word you’re looking for. The CWU acquiesced. And yes, they did tacitly agree, encourage and welcome the new-entrant contracts being introduced as it meant the thorny and highly-contentious issue of Sunday working for legacy staff became a non-issue.