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darrenpp
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Duty Options

Post by darrenpp »

Hey all, trying to wrap my head around these new duty options. I thought that the new way of working was essentially 3 people working 4 duties. Looking at the '9 day fortnight' for example, you have a day off cover (DOC) working Mon to Fri, meaning that on any given weekday you have 4 people working 4 duties. And the '2 in 5 Saturdays' option has 5 people working 5 duties. What am I missing?

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ted_e_bear
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Post by ted_e_bear »

I wondered about that too, a guess and I'm probably wrong would be by 'duty 1,2,3' etc it's just referring to the attendance patterns rather than it actually meaning duty number 1 as such.

In fact I've no idea but hopefully someone will explain it, there's quite a few pilot offices now so someone must know.
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darrenpp wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 11:09
Hey all, trying to wrap my head around these new duty options. I thought that the new way of working was essentially 3 people working 4 duties. Looking at the '9 day fortnight' for example, you have a day off cover (DOC) working Mon to Fri, meaning that on any given weekday you have 4 people working 4 duties. And the '2 in 5 Saturdays' option has 5 people working 5 duties. What am I missing?

TIA
Take all your CDV paired duties and reduce by 25% Monday to Friday. Reduced the paired duties by 50% on a Saturday. Don't include the singleton duties, they stay as they are. Whatever number you have left see if it can fit into the rotations. Working days are longer and will still be long and shorts. Some rotations require even longer days. 4 day weeks will be at least 9 hrs 15 mins long per day.
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I maybe a bit thick do the A B C in yellow on the download indicate the Saturday's off for those duty options 🤔 thanks
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Gary55 wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 16:00
I maybe a bit thick do the A B C in yellow on the download indicate the Saturday's off for those duty options 🤔 thanks
No the day off is shown as D/O, I think the yellow will show whatever duty you're supposed to do on the Saturday presumably parcels+1c for two duties.
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Gary55 wrote:
08 Jun 2025, 16:00
I maybe a bit thick do the A B C in yellow on the download indicate the Saturday's off for those duty options 🤔 thanks
No. It shows the duty that day. Saturdays are combined duty days.
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Thanks for replies
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Post by Acca Dacca »

Why is the DOC ( day off cover ) part time only for the 2 in 5 option?

Why wouldnt they stll need FT day off covers?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Acca Dacca wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 21:43
Why is the DOC ( day off cover ) part time only for the 2 in 5 option?

Why wouldnt they stll need FT day off covers?
Because they only work Mon,Tues, Thurs Fri so 4 x 7hrs50 days = 31hrs20.

So in effect when they attend they're on ft attendance.
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ted_e_bear wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 06:01
Acca Dacca wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 21:43
Why is the DOC ( day off cover ) part time only for the 2 in 5 option?

Why wouldnt they stll need FT day off covers?
Because they only work Mon,Tues, Thurs Fri so 4 x 7hrs50 days = 31hrs20.

So in effect when they attend they're on ft attendance.
So another duty a FT worker can't sign for?
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Post by ted_e_bear »

A2B wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 08:51
ted_e_bear wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 06:01
Acca Dacca wrote:
10 Jun 2025, 21:43
Why is the DOC ( day off cover ) part time only for the 2 in 5 option?

Why wouldnt they stll need FT day off covers?
Because they only work Mon,Tues, Thurs Fri so 4 x 7hrs50 days = 31hrs20.

So in effect when they attend they're on ft attendance.
So another duty a FT worker can't sign for?
Looks that way but there's also 5 full time duties in that section plus some people might want to drop down to only 4 days per week with every Saturday off.
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Post by A2B »

So what happens with PT walks? We have duties where only PT can sign for them, the only difference is the indoor work so they get 99% prepped.

With the new system a FT worker will have to be delivering that duty or will they be excluded from duties a FT worker can do
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Post by Valentina@1 »

Dont forget Walsh said nobody will be doing walking side of delivery more than 3 days in row.

How the f**k that supposed to work?
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Valentina@1 wrote:
11 Jun 2025, 15:51
Dont forget Walsh said nobody will be doing walking side of delivery more than 3 days in row.

How the f**k that supposed to work?
It isn’t possible at all under the system they propose. All bull and bluster as usual, RM could easily continue without bringing this nonsense in, they make a fortune but are just greedy for more-at our cost.