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makingsounds
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25 hour contract query

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A 25 hour contract postman in our office who currently works 5 days a week wants to maintain his contract but work it over 4 days as he is a primary carer for his elderly & unwell mother. He has had an OH referral which recommends the manager look into mutually agreeing a block 4 day week with the individual, giving him 3 continuous days off to benefit his work/life balance. The manager has said no because his contract is for 5 days. His contract only states 25 hours, not that he has to work over 5 days. Is there any agreement or thoughts on this issue please?
rogersh
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Re: 25 hour contract query

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This route is an option; Grievance!!

RAISING CONCERNS AT WORK

The Raising Concerns procedure replaced the Bullying & Harassment and Grievance procedures as they were no longer fit for purpose, or being applied in a manner which was in the best interest of our members.. it is important that everyone should feel comfortable and able to raise concerns at work without fear of recrimination.

You can raise your concern in one of three ways:

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redlen
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Re: 25 hour contract query

Post by redlen »

You mention you are the primary carer for your unwell mother?

Does you mother have a condition such as a recognised disability that will be covered under the Equality Act 2010?

If so then you will be covered under DISABILITY BY ASSOCIATION which will contravene your protected characteristics.

Mention this to your manager and if he still will not budge, submit a grievance
tramssirhc
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Re: 25 hour contract query

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makingsounds wrote:
08 May 2025, 19:27
A 25 hour contract postman in our office who currently works 5 days a week wants to maintain his contract but work it over 4 days as he is a primary carer for his elderly & unwell mother. He has had an OH referral which recommends the manager look into mutually agreeing a block 4 day week with the individual, giving him 3 continuous days off to benefit his work/life balance. The manager has said no because his contract is for 5 days. His contract only states 25 hours, not that he has to work over 5 days. Is there any agreement or thoughts on this issue please?
Does the contract definitely not refer to a number of days?
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
Peabrain22
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Re: 25 hour contract query

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I don't know what to say.. I'm on a 20 hour part time contract 4 hours over 5 days.. thing is I don't work 5 days as I cover 3 floats that take 6 hours each day so there's 18 .and I work every Sunday.. I don't know your circumstances but I imagine you are also covering days of and that's why your manager isn't playing ball so to speak..
ted_e_bear
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Re: 25 hour contract query

Post by ted_e_bear »

Peabrain22 wrote:
09 May 2025, 20:42
I don't know what to say.. I'm on a 20 hour part time contract 4 hours over 5 days.. thing is I don't work 5 days as I cover 3 floats that take 6 hours each day so there's 18 .and I work every Sunday.. I don't know your circumstances but I imagine you are also covering days of and that's why your manager isn't playing ball so to speak..
Those 4 hours a day contracts boil my piss, you couldn't complete even if you started delivering immediately when you arrived at work :no no
makingsounds
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Re: 25 hour contract query

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tramssirhc wrote:
09 May 2025, 06:55
makingsounds wrote:
08 May 2025, 19:27
A 25 hour contract postman in our office who currently works 5 days a week wants to maintain his contract but work it over 4 days as he is a primary carer for his elderly & unwell mother. He has had an OH referral which recommends the manager look into mutually agreeing a block 4 day week with the individual, giving him 3 continuous days off to benefit his work/life balance. The manager has said no because his contract is for 5 days. His contract only states 25 hours, not that he has to work over 5 days. Is there any agreement or thoughts on this issue please?
Does the contract definitely not refer to a number of days?
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tramssirhc
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Re: 25 hour contract query

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makingsounds wrote:
11 May 2025, 07:48
tramssirhc wrote:
09 May 2025, 06:55
makingsounds wrote:
08 May 2025, 19:27
A 25 hour contract postman in our office who currently works 5 days a week wants to maintain his contract but work it over 4 days as he is a primary carer for his elderly & unwell mother. He has had an OH referral which recommends the manager look into mutually agreeing a block 4 day week with the individual, giving him 3 continuous days off to benefit his work/life balance. The manager has said no because his contract is for 5 days. His contract only states 25 hours, not that he has to work over 5 days. Is there any agreement or thoughts on this issue please?
Does the contract definitely not refer to a number of days?
What year did they commence employment?
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
redlen
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Re: 25 hour contract query

Post by redlen »

In Royal Mail, a week will be any five days over seven with the new generation contracts.
makingsounds
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Re: 25 hour contract query

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tramssirhc wrote:
11 May 2025, 19:02
makingsounds wrote:
11 May 2025, 07:48
tramssirhc wrote:
09 May 2025, 06:55
makingsounds wrote:
08 May 2025, 19:27
A 25 hour contract postman in our office who currently works 5 days a week wants to maintain his contract but work it over 4 days as he is a primary carer for his elderly & unwell mother. He has had an OH referral which recommends the manager look into mutually agreeing a block 4 day week with the individual, giving him 3 continuous days off to benefit his work/life balance. The manager has said no because his contract is for 5 days. His contract only states 25 hours, not that he has to work over 5 days. Is there any agreement or thoughts on this issue please?
Does the contract definitely not refer to a number of days?
What year did they commence employment?
2021
tramssirhc
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Re: 25 hour contract query

Post by tramssirhc »

makingsounds wrote:
12 May 2025, 16:06
tramssirhc wrote:
11 May 2025, 19:02
makingsounds wrote:
11 May 2025, 07:48
tramssirhc wrote:
09 May 2025, 06:55
makingsounds wrote:
08 May 2025, 19:27
A 25 hour contract postman in our office who currently works 5 days a week wants to maintain his contract but work it over 4 days as he is a primary carer for his elderly & unwell mother. He has had an OH referral which recommends the manager look into mutually agreeing a block 4 day week with the individual, giving him 3 continuous days off to benefit his work/life balance. The manager has said no because his contract is for 5 days. His contract only states 25 hours, not that he has to work over 5 days. Is there any agreement or thoughts on this issue please?
Does the contract definitely not refer to a number of days?
What year did they commence employment?
2021
It is worth reading the contract again. There will be a paragraph in it stating that the hours are over x amount of days. Probably not easy to spot.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren