advice req ( sick )

[harry hill]

hi, I'm currently off and not getting any pay as I've gone over the 12 months in 4 years

i've been off nearly 8 months this time with a reoccurrence of the same problem that I had a couple of years back, having been waiting since April for a new appointment that was cancelled due to COVID and still not been seen ( have tried trust me )

I did have a procedure in Feb which worked but failed again before I got back to work
I was due to go in early March to discuss matters but was told to stay at home (lockdown was just kicking in) , and that's been the case since

I did try to get back and perhaps do 'collections' which I feel I could manage but OHS explained RM want to give a max of 6 weeks rehab and to return to my normal duty of postman, OHS said ive not fit enough to do that ( which im not, but collections I could probably manage) so that was a no go

in the mean time they don't really seem to care now im not getting paid, no phone calls, nothing

any advice would be great thanks

is there anything I could be doing, should be doing etc ?

[goldy]

Unfortunately Grievance is the only way forward I would imagine.

[Woody Guthrie]

I think after 8 months, one unsuccessful attempt at resolving it and with no imminent solution on the horizon I would be looking at protecting myself by having the condition recognised as an ongoing disability.

[k979aaa]

hi, I'm currently off and not getting any pay as I've gone over the 12 months in 4 years

i've been off nearly 8 months this time with a reoccurrence of the same problem that I had a couple of years back, having been waiting since April for a new appointment that was cancelled due to COVID and still not been seen ( have tried trust me )

I did have a procedure in Feb which worked but failed again before I got back to work
I was due to go in early March to discuss matters but was told to stay at home (lockdown was just kicking in) , and that's been the case since

I did try to get back and perhaps do 'collections' which I feel I could manage but OHS explained RM want to give a max of 6 weeks rehab and to return to my normal duty of postman, OHS said ive not fit enough to do that ( which im not, but collections I could probably manage) so that was a no go

in the mean time they don't really seem to care now im not getting paid, no phone calls, nothing

any advice would be great thanks

is there anything I could be doing, should be doing etc ?

Could you get paid off on your terms even collections is hard work and maybe get a desk job because I don't know your condition, But a clean break with money in the bank you can train to do anything and something you feel able to do and most importantly want to do!

[harry hill]

I think after 8 months, one unsuccessful attempt at resolving it and with no imminent solution on the horizon I would be looking at protecting myself by having the condition recognised as an ongoing disability.

it has been by OHS, even though they didnt get around to issuing me with a stage 1 or 2 they obviously contacted ohs to speak to me when I triggered stage 3 , ohs told them all sick was linked and to treat me as disabled

actually have a hospital appointment arranged for next week now

[harry hill]

hi, I'm currently off and not getting any pay as I've gone over the 12 months in 4 years

i've been off nearly 8 months this time with a reoccurrence of the same problem that I had a couple of years back, having been waiting since April for a new appointment that was cancelled due to COVID and still not been seen ( have tried trust me )

I did have a procedure in Feb which worked but failed again before I got back to work
I was due to go in early March to discuss matters but was told to stay at home (lockdown was just kicking in) , and that's been the case since

I did try to get back and perhaps do 'collections' which I feel I could manage but OHS explained RM want to give a max of 6 weeks rehab and to return to my normal duty of postman, OHS said ive not fit enough to do that ( which im not, but collections I could probably manage) so that was a no go

in the mean time they don't really seem to care now im not getting paid, no phone calls, nothing

any advice would be great thanks

is there anything I could be doing, should be doing etc ?

Could you get paid off on your terms even collections is hard work and maybe get a desk job because I don't know your condition, But a clean break with money in the bank you can train to do anything and something you feel able to do and most importantly want to do!

I am still hoping to get treated and if its successful to return to normal duties, have been getting out and about last couple of weeks and could probably manage a collection quite comfortably, have hospital appt next week so hoping that things get moving now
one of my conditions is AF, I try to explain it as being able to do anything but its like having to carry a small child around on your shoulders

[POSTMAN]

but OHS explained RM want to give a max of 6 weeks rehab and to return to my normal duty of postman,

Vile c***s, what's the point of OHS if you're gonna ignore them!

OHS said I'm not fit enough to do

So, is that it then, ''ok RM I'll let him know, godda go as I've other patients...''
Are OHS not flagging this up somewhere, to someone, somehow, these are human lives that are being played with, who is accountable for this farce!

[harry hill]

but OHS explained RM want to give a max of 6 weeks rehab and to return to my normal duty of postman,

Vile c***s, what's the point of OHS if you're gonna ignore them!

OHS said I'm not fit enough to do

So, is that it then, ''ok RM I'll let him know, godda go as I've other patients...''
Are OHS not flagging this up somewhere, to someone, somehow, these are human lives that are being played with, who is accountable for this farce!

not sure what you mean to be honest, my situation I'm waiting and have been since feb for a out patient procedure that could have me back to normal in a few weeks
i'm currently not fit enough for my 8 mile a day round and wont be until I get this procedure

what I wanted in the meantime was to do maybe a 24 hour collection, or indoor work maybe half a round, but it seems RM are saying come back and you get 6 weeks rehab and then normal duties, take it or leave it, considering the current situation you'd think they would be grateful for all the help they can get but perhaps not

[goldy]

If you have a disability you can still keep your job while not being paid and claim for new style Esa and PIP there's different amounts depending on severity.

[Navalron]

If you have a disability you can still keep your job while not being paid and claim for new style Esa and PIP there's different amounts depending on severity.

Yes but you must claim ssp first for 28 weeks. Then claim ESA (Employment support allowance) and PIP ( Personal independence payment). There are no face to face examinations due to civic and the backlog is a nightmare. A lot of staff have been transferred to cope with UC ( universal credit) but put the claims in because they are backdated from the day you phone and make a claim. RM should be telling people this but as an ex driver I know they are tosspots. Good luck mate. Phone from 8 in the morning or you will be on the phone for a couple of hours. They brought in extra staff from CAPITA who don't know how to work the system but it's not their fault as nobody has shown them what to do. Also All your time on the sick goes towards your final award from us. When you get the form for ESA don't chuck it because it's like an 80s telephone book because most of the pages will not be applicable to you and require only a tick then next page ect.

[Woody Guthrie]

Yes but you must claim ssp first for 28 weeks.

If he's been off for 8 months and on nil pay he already has, SSP is used to make up part of our overall sick pay package.

[harry hill]

I spoke to my local rep today and apparently he was told to contact me ( luckily I rang him then lol ) to say RM have said I can take ill heath retirement if I want it

I've actually got a phone call from the hospital on Monday so I will at least see what the outcome of that is first as ideally I still want my job back

[Navalron]

Yes but you must claim ssp first for 28 weeks.

If he's been off for 8 months and on nil pay he already has, SSP is used to make up part of our overall sick pay package.

He has said he is getting no pay and ssp is statuary sick pay. You have to claim esp from dwp/employer but most doms are not up to the job because at the end of the year RM pay back ssp and it will come out of individual office budgets. So it's not in their interest to tell posties what their due and the whole HR dept in RM is a joke.

[harry hill]

Yes but you must claim ssp first for 28 weeks.

If he's been off for 8 months and on nil pay he already has, SSP is used to make up part of our overall sick pay package.

He has said he is getting no pay and ssp is statuary sick pay. You have to claim esp from dwp/employer but most doms are not up to the job because at the end of the year RM pay back ssp and it will come out of individual office budgets. So it's not in their interest to tell posties what their due and the whole HR dept in RM is a joke.

I've claimed ESP but not had anything confirmed yet

the 8 months I've had off was added to the 4 months I had off 2 years back with the same condition, so 12 months in 4 years = no sick pay

[goldy]

You should get ESP it's contribution based theres two parts to it, firstly about 75 quid a week then the second part which is about 50 quid but you must send in the assessment form describing how the illness affects you which you fill out as if its your worse day. This is very similar to the PIP form and yes no face to face assessments at moment. Try claiming PIP you are probably entitled to something.