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Body Beyond Repair
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Resigns

Post by Body Beyond Repair »

In our office there is a resign coming probably we have 1 guy on a rural pay protection duty,1 guy on bckshift duty which carries allowances and 2 phgs (specialist posts) there saying those duties do not have to go into a resign could anyone inlighten me if this is true. much obliged :wave :wave
scottyb
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Post by scottyb »

i smell a rat mmmmm. but that might just be me. why are the phg specialist post. if the manager told you this then its a lie.
i thought an office resign was all duties.
johnnyp
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Re: Resigns

Post by johnnyp »

rural 3 wrote:In our office there is a resign coming probably we have 1 guy on a rural pay protection duty,1 guy on bckshift duty which carries allowances and 2 phgs (specialist posts) there saying those duties do not have to go into a resign could anyone inlighten me if this is true. much obliged :wave :wave

This is true as under the way forward i think it was duties with allowances can not be signed for in a resign unless the duty holder wants to come off by there own choice,something to do with pay protection.If there job was lost through an office revision then they would keep that allowance for 3 years.We have it at my office,its called Ringfence and also affects our ex P.H.G. duties and our drivers.Our night jobs were the same ,but we give them up in our last revision for a 4 day week.The night guys got to keep there allowance (£65) for 3 years.
dvbuk55
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Post by dvbuk55 »

Someone has obviously done what is known as a preference exercise to determine which duties will and will not go into a resign - there are quite a number of criteria those you mentioned are just some.
Body Beyond Repair
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Post by Body Beyond Repair »

Cheers for the comments way forward agreement said a lot,thanks
mitzi
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Post by mitzi »

if you are planning a resign make sure no duties are advertised as duties picked are for a minimum 12 months, so these should not be included. family friendly duties are ringfenced. mtsf protects pay protected duties. bookroom, callers office and any duty attracting "A" allowance are all ringfenced in a resign.
jobshare duties need not be included in a resign, any duty that has not significantly changed(25%) is excluded from resigns.
the worst scenario for a cwu rep is to be accused of discrimination so if planning to embark on a resign i would advise becoming very aware of all agreements and legislation.
axeman
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Post by axeman »

Belive the 25% rule is for the amount of dutys that have changed before you can persue a resign. So long as you hit that they should not withold your rights to a resign the only exemptions are jobs that the duty structure has not changed ie : firms type jobs that still require a 5pm start and others that are 'ringfenced'
madelin4
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Post by madelin4 »

What if you don't want to re-sign for another duty? i wud not want to re-sign i like my walk :sad:
dvbuk55
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Post by dvbuk55 »

madelin4 wrote:What if you don't want to re-sign for another duty? i wud not want to re-sign i like my walk :sad:
Well if you are senior enough you'll get it - if you are not you won't. Many offices are long overdue a resign where duties have been handed out without due regard to seniority and that needs to be rectified. Liking a duty is not a reason for it not to be in the pot.
yogibear
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Post by yogibear »

mitzi wrote:if you are planning a resign make sure no duties are advertised as duties picked are for a minimum 12 months, so these should not be included. family friendly duties are ringfenced. mtsf protects pay protected duties. bookroom, callers office and any duty attracting "A" allowance are all ringfenced in a resign.
jobshare duties need not be included in a resign, any duty that has not significantly changed(25%) is excluded from resigns.
the worst scenario for a cwu rep is to be accused of discrimination so if planning to embark on a resign i would advise becoming very aware of all agreements and legislation.
what are "A" allowances? :confused