Normal service on CWU website

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 02 Jan 2008, 16:56

Does anybody know when normal service resumes on the CWU website?

borderscot · Post by **borderscot** » 02 Jan 2008, 19:16

thought the last two weeks was normal service

Post by **dvbuk55** » 02 Jan 2008, 19:56

borderscot wrote:thought the last two weeks was normal service

Hang on give the guys a break, they have been through a nerve wracking series of negotiations and most definitely need a fortnight break, good grief they can't be expected to be at full throttle at Christmas time - are you lot - oh yes, still they did get you a good pay deal AND an extra five Christmases to enjoy your Xmas tips.

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 02 Jan 2008, 20:14

DVBUK.. Mate i do agree that there are good people on the CWU HQ and PEC but i know as i myself are going thru the last THREE YEARS problems with RM and bullys... The CWU havent backed me as they should.. In my opinion...

Now the last deal that was again hard fort but shabblerly ended and informed to the members....

The two week News black out was a sham and RM pulled the wool over our eyes and this in my view lost us the momentum we had behind for a fight and BETTER results in our negotiating....

I know its easy to sit and say "I WOULD OF" and "THEY SHOULD DO" when im not in the seat.... Fair call.. I should stand up and make my points heard and stick up for what i shout about... I know i wouldnt be backed as i and many on here would be rail roaded an put under the party line... Ive seen it... It happends.. I would love to be more ACTIVE in the CWU but lots of the politics is not my cup of tea.. I feel as Rhino has posted on this site a great piece about local help and EVERYBODY making a difference in there place of work not just relying on the reps or Branch to deal with things.. WE ALL need to take part in more issues for all our sakes..

More pressure on strike breakers and people who intend to not work to the 318'S......

CWU members should now remember the strike breakers and backsliders and take them to the union and make em put up of ship out.... WE dont need backstabbers......

I hope we can keep things in perspective and hold some moral ground even if we give up some rights that we did have in the new FLEXIBILITY that RM will bring in... WITH THE HELP OF US THE CWU MEMBERS...

Lets hope every MC and DO n RDC in the countrys have a open forum and a committee to help the rep and branch...

WE NEED TO CARRY ON THE FIGHT...

OUT

Post by **dvbuk55** » 03 Jan 2008, 12:34

L Tommo wrote:DVBUK.. Mate i do agree that there are good people on the CWU HQ and PEC but i know as i myself are going thru the last THREE YEARS problems with RM and bullys... The CWU havent backed me as they should.. In my opinion...

Now the last deal that was again hard fort but shabblerly ended and informed to the members....

The two week News black out was a sham and RM pulled the wool over our eyes and this in my view lost us the momentum we had behind for a fight and BETTER results in our negotiating....

I know its easy to sit and say "I WOULD OF" and "THEY SHOULD DO" when im not in the seat.... Fair call.. I should stand up and make my points heard and stick up for what i shout about... I know i wouldnt be backed as i and many on here would be rail roaded an put under the party line... Ive seen it... It happends.. I would love to be more ACTIVE in the CWU but lots of the politics is not my cup of tea.. I feel as Rhino has posted on this site a great piece about local help and EVERYBODY making a difference in there place of work not just relying on the reps or Branch to deal with things.. WE ALL need to take part in more issues for all our sakes..

More pressure on strike breakers and people who intend to not work to the 318'S......

CWU members should now remember the strike breakers and backsliders and take them to the union and make em put up of ship out.... WE dont need backstabbers......

I hope we can keep things in perspective and hold some moral ground even if we give up some rights that we did have in the new FLEXIBILITY that RM will bring in... WITH THE HELP OF US THE CWU MEMBERS...

Lets hope every MC and DO n RDC in the countrys have a open forum and a committee to help the rep and branch...

WE NEED TO CARRY ON THE FIGHT...

OUT

Actually LT I was speaking with tongue in cheek there - those we employ should definitely NOT enjoy better working conditions, pensions and perks than we ourselves enjoy. I just wonder how much they are going to be awarding themslves in pay rises this year.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 03 Jan 2008, 13:19

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 03 Jan 2008, 13:36

So which CWU grade wage should those who draw their wages from the CWU rather than a employer receive?

How about the grade that gets paid the most, which i suspect would be a BT or Virgin media job rather than a Royal Mail Group job?

To clarify dvbuk 55 do you include people such as the staff at Alvescot lodge or admin staff at HQ as those we employ? Or are you refering to the officers of the CWU?

Post by **dvbuk55** » 03 Jan 2008, 16:22

Big Daz wrote:Why?

There would perhaps be a sharpening of the mind if the officers of the Union were under the same auspices as the rest of us nicht wahr? We retire at 65, they retire at 65, our pension is curtailed, their pension is curtailed, our pay increase is 2.5 over two years and so is theirs, our working conditions are worsened so is theirs.

Do you see where I'm coming from? It is easier to agree working conditions, pay and pensions detrimental to those enduring it IF you aren't actually going to endure it yourself.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 07 Jan 2008, 06:04

Nice to see normal service has resumed and was kicked off by the excellent Dave Joyce national health and safety officer.

Apparently we are one of the few unions who ELECT our national health and safety officer.