Holiday PAY

hero22 · Post by **hero22** » 27 Feb 2018, 18:16

Hi all, Had a team meeting today which turned confrontational, the issue being holidays.

I don't know what other offices are like but getting single days off no matter how long in advance you may have applied is simply impossible, the excuse being SICKNESS is too high in the office to allow people off. I could understand this but it has been the same for the four years I have been there and have been turned down on every occasion in that time along with most of the office (apart from the usual crowd who kiss doms arse).

Today I asked the dom and the union rep, if we can not get time off can we at least get the holidays paid up at the end of the holiday year. ANSWER: No, the inland revenue/ tax man does not allow this. I was told it would only be paid up when you retire or decide to leave.

Can anyone tell me is this accurate or what steps to take because this sounds like utter nonsense to me. Any help is much appreciated.

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 27 Feb 2018, 18:32

What do you mean by them not paying holiday?

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 27 Feb 2018, 19:22

I think he means accrued leave and they will not give you single days they would rather it disappear or you leave or if you have a few take it in one block as a week! it's all to do with staffing the office never going to pay for extra staff the only other way round it is ask to pay someone swap or barter with the usual crowd or go sick that will throw the cat amongst the pidgins looking for overtime!

olilew · Post by **olilew** » 27 Feb 2018, 19:43

f**k that! I would be telling them I want all my holidays before the holiday year is up, just as you are entitled!

Creditshampoo · Post by **Creditshampoo** » 27 Feb 2018, 19:49

YOU ARE ENTITLED TO TAKE ALL YOUR HOLIDAY BEFORE END OF MARCH
THIS IS THE LAW
GRIEVANCE ABD REPLACE YOUR REP

Post by **Navalron** » 27 Feb 2018, 19:58

I've never heard of so much crap. Your ENTITLED to your holidays. I can see a Dom of today's RM trying piss like that but a REP. Wtf is going on. Are things really that bad now in the job. Get in touch with AREA, and if their weak and feable then take it to the top. Just ask MOYA. Its f.....g pathetic the way that Postie's these days are treated but they don't seem to stand up for themselves as much. C,Mon we all fought for extra holidays and allowances by going out, and losing other perks like n.d.a ect. Not for the new guys to be p...d all over. I'm not some old fart I'm only 49 and recently nearly came back in but realised at the last minute that I wouldn't be able to take what yous put up with now. I respect the ones who can put up with the b and h but I couldn't look at myself in the mirror personally.

hero22 · Post by **hero22** » 27 Feb 2018, 20:23

In our office any holidays u may have left over, a couple of days for example are constantly carried over from year to year. I have been in the job four years and already have something like 100 hours which has been carried over since 2014. It hasn't been for a lack of trying in applying for single days but they are constantly refused on the basis that sickness in the office is too high. Another guy has over 100 days from something like 11 years. We sign for our main 4,5 or 6 weeks in November for the following year but as you are aware there is still hours left which should be for single days etc.

I thought this was maybe an issue on a larger scale, as I mentioned I said if u cant give me a single day then at least give me the money for the hours which are being forcibly carried over year after year. So if I have 10 hours come the end of March an I haven't been granted any holiday requests then just pay me for those 10 hours. The response was we cant, if you have holiday hours that we cant allow you to take then we will pay u them on you leaving or retiring.

If that is confusing please ask cause i would appreciate other thoughts on this.

olilew · Post by **olilew** » 27 Feb 2018, 20:35

hero22 wrote:In our office any holidays u may have left over, a couple of days for example are constantly carried over from year to year. I have been in the job four years and already have something like 100 hours which has been carried over since 2014. It hasn't been for a lack of trying in applying for single days but they are constantly refused on the basis that sickness in the office is too high. Another guy has over 100 days from something like 11 years. We sign for our main 4,5 or 6 weeks in November for the following year but as you are aware there is still hours left which should be for single days etc.

I thought this was maybe an issue on a larger scale, as I mentioned I said if u cant give me a single day then at least give me the money for the hours which are being forcibly carried over year after year. So if I have 10 hours come the end of March an I haven't been granted any holiday requests then just pay me for those 10 hours. The response was we cant, if you have holiday hours that we cant allow you to take then we will pay u them on you leaving or retiring.

If that is confusing please ask cause i would appreciate other thoughts on this.

It's not confusing, it's just WRONG!

hero22 · Post by **hero22** » 27 Feb 2018, 20:42

That's what I thought mate, others in the office seem to have accepted it for years but will need to take it further. Blatantly ripping us off.

olilew · Post by **olilew** » 27 Feb 2018, 20:43

https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/mrm/Tim ... ummary.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

olilew · Post by **olilew** » 27 Feb 2018, 20:46

"You will be able to take your annual holiday allowance in the relevant holiday year". It's there in black and white mate.

hero22 · Post by **hero22** » 27 Feb 2018, 20:52

appreciate that mate, will print it out and show the relevant bandits

Post by **POSTMAN** » 27 Feb 2018, 22:46

This as well...
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 15&t=76232" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There are some seriously poor reps out there!