Apart from the abvious what else will be changed?

[madelin4]

i.e. conduct code issues , sick procedures etc?

[Shrek]

i.e. conduct code issues , sick procedures etc?

Conduct and sickness code along with Pensions and door 2 door are stil being talked about at national level

[TrueBlueTerrier]

don't forget the working groups on annualised hours and monthly pay, and the end of MTSF.

They want it to be Commercially viable with a sensitive approach.

That means they say sorry when they don't give you as much as you would have got if you go the EVR or VR route.

[k979aaa]

don't forget the working groups on annualised hours and monthly pay, and the end of MTSF.

They want it to be Commercially viable with a sensitive approach.

That means they say sorry when they don't give you as much as you would have got if you go the EVR or VR route.

Or just a big cushion when they kick us in the nut's!.

[Big Daz]

Please do not forget that we will be given a vote on pensions and monthly pay.


Too big issues that the rank and file will have the final say on.

Monthly pay will be intresting, in my office most of the comments are around what sort of incentive will be offered and what the negotiaters come up with rto keep us going from last weekly pay to first monthly pay.


I think that RM/CWU (presuming monthly pay deal is reached) should pick a month with 5 fridays in and pay us as normal up to and including payday no 4 and then give us are first monthly pay on the last friday of the month.

[dvbuk55]

I will be changing my underpants at least once a month whether they need it or not.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I will be changing my underpants at least once a month whether they need it or not.

Thats quiet often I turn them round and inside out you get 4 times the use that way

[dvbuk55]

I will be changing my underpants at least once a month whether they need it or not.

Thats quiet often I turn them round and inside out you get 4 times the use that way

Nice one - the wife's not too keen on going down to the river in this cold weather

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I think they are basically the same I may be wrong but I always throught

EVR was Early Voluntary Retirement.

VR - Voluntary Redundancy

Anyone in the know.

[baldrick]

VR is Voluntary Redundancy, ie a lump sum dependent on your length of service and age (minimum 26 weeks).
EVR is Early Voluntary Retirement, ie if you are over 50 you can get your pension (enhanced by up to 6.66 years) with the appropriate lump sum (3x Annual Pension if you are A/B class pension scheme member).
Problem is that RM have been reluctant to give people between 50-55 EVR, and have only been offering them the VR lump sum, up to a maximum of 102 weeks.

[campostie64]

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ABOUT D2D'S.ARE THEY BEING IMPLEMENTED INTO BASIC PAY OR WILL WE STILL GET PAYED AS WE USUALLY DO ?[/b]

[johnnyp]

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING ABOUT D2D'S.ARE THEY BEING IMPLEMENTED INTO BASIC PAY OR WILL WE STILL GET PAYED AS WE USUALLY DO ?[/b]

D2Ds no agreement at the moment and along with Monthly pay will be subject to further discussions.

[F0zziebear]

Unfortunately ppl around the age of 50-54 (mainly lifers) are too expensive to give redundancy to. What does this mean? Basically it will cost less to keep them employed upto retirement rather than let them go early.

As a company that is trying hard to make cost savings in exchange for investment these kind of things are necessary, and it applies to people across the company regardless of pay grade.

Monthly pay:
The infrastructure to provide weekly pay is huge. Imagine the potential cost savings by running pay only 1/4 of the current time and resources currently required. This will inevitably lead to job reductions in the 1,000+ pay department (the faces you don't see based in Sheffield). By reducing the costs in these central/shared services it is less likely that a job has to go at the frontline (though it is not a guarantee).

I personally found in Ops the paperwork required each week really took away focus from running and providing the service. Maybe there will be some problems implementing this, but if staff are given a percentage of the savings then you will in the near future appreciate the approach. I hope so as I'm prepared to endorse such an approach. If it doesn't work then I'll eat my words

F0zz

[brothermagrew]

I will be changing my underpants at least once a month whether they need it or not.

Thats quiet often I turn them round and inside out you get 4 times the use that way

Nice one - the wife's not too keen on going down to the river in this cold weather

Hey dvbuk55

That wouldn't be the River Gunges would it?

[dvbuk55]

I will be changing my underpants at least once a month whether they need it or not.

Thats quiet often I turn them round and inside out you get 4 times the use that way

Nice one - the wife's not too keen on going down to the river in this cold weather

Hey dvbuk55

That wouldn't be the River Gunges would it?

It's only called that AFTER she's washed 'em.