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Glasgow and District Amal reccomend No vote

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Glasgow and District Amal reccomend No vote

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After a healthy debate today Glasgow and District Amal reccomend a No vote. :Very Happy


Local management showing no co-operation in restoring Start and finish times. :no no
Does not fill us with confidence that they take CWU seriously. :arrrghhh
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DO the job properly.
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Post by The FraudSquad »

is it true tam? are they dragging their heels about returning the saturdays to the original start times?
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Later start times

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The Agreement withdrew executive action by Royal Mail. RM imposed later start times by executive action.
The CWU RM agreement states that units who wish to revert to later starts on a Saturday should do so.
In meetings with RM they merely state that the Network 2007 changes ( which put back mail dispatch times) have been imposed and it will not be possible to revert to later starts on a Sat and that 400,000 items would fail each week.

In short no movement.

A meeting has been arranged for this week when we will discuss the KA/DG sector. The response will determine our attitude.

Vote NO and do the job properly :Applause
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Post by The FraudSquad »

need to get it clarified from our sector man as asoon as possible...

as far as i am concerned as part of the agreement Saturdays would return to original time, which in our office was 445am for delivery staff

if this is not the case then the men and women need to know before they start voting
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Post by DGP1 »

As I've said before Saturdays will NEVER go back to 5am starts because managers will do anything to block it. :mad :mad
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Post by Southsider »

Good for you Glasgow and District Amal. :Applause


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Post by cwudino »

:Applause :Applause well done glasgow :Applause :Applause :Applause
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Post by Throgg »

is it true tam? are they dragging their heels about returning the saturdays to the original start times?
According to one of our reps, the word from Gerry MacAuley was "We (RM Glasgow) will not put the Saturday times back to what they were. Saturdays will remain a later start, that's it, no negotiation"

We at the Big South will be voting...


NO!!!
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Post by k979aaa »

allyjm wrote:need to get it clarified from our sector man as asoon as possible...

as far as i am concerned as part of the agreement Saturdays would return to original time, which in our office was 445am for delivery staff

if this is not the case then the men and women need to know before they start voting
And guess why because kid's do not go to school on saturday's good in't but when the walk sorting equipment come's in it will be later again and you will be back to square one. If you tolarate this then your children will be next! so this has what this country has become a nation of lilylivered toss pot's and yes men. I SAY NO VOTE NO AND VOTE NO NOW!. :evil/mad
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Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Throgg wrote:
is it true tam? are they dragging their heels about returning the saturdays to the original start times?
According to one of our reps, the word from Gerry MacAuley was "We (RM Glasgow) will not put the Saturday times back to what they were. Saturdays will remain a later start, that's it, no negotiation"

We at the Big South will be voting...

NO!!!
This is direct from the agreement on the unions web site:
4. SECTION 2 – DELIVERING CHANGE AND FLEXIBILITY

Change is to be shaped and implemented in four phases.

Phase 1 – Immediate Operational Changes

Start times and Network 2007
Royal Mail has introduced later start times for operational reasons. CWU note these changes. Given that there has been little or no opportunity for discussion about these changes at local level, both Royal Mail and CWU are committed to resolve any outstanding issues. Royal Mail and CWU will urgently review these arrangements at local level in line with the following:

Henceforth the normal start times will be between 0600 and 0630

Changes in start times should take account, as far as possible, of individual circumstances

Saturday start times and the overall length of attendance on a Saturday will remain as before unless agreed otherwise locally

Saturday attendances will be reviewed in the Joint Working Group (2) as part of the introduction of a new delivery model
So as I read it you don't need their agreement they need yours if the offer is accepted.
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RM ignore agreement.

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RM have made it perfectly clear that they intend to ignore any part of the agreement that they don't like. Thay have no intention of restoring the Early Sat start/finish times.

Neither are they comitted to CWU involvement in "modernisation", CWU release has been cancelled except where need to involve Reps. (to sell a crap deal to the members).


Vote No and do the job properly.