Hiya....undergoing cancer treatment at the moment and no doubt in the future but still doing full duties (for the time being) my concern/worry for the future is that when lapsing is brought back whether managers will expect me to do it?
To be honest I am having all on now to just do a duty as my strength and stamina isn't what is was for obvious reasons...furthermore another delivery office adjacent to ours has issues and quite often the guys over there leave mail/loops/walks in etc...can managers force me to deliver mail on any of these loops /walks if I get back slightly early on my own duty or not because two managers last week started to ask whether I was done and what time I was finished etc, which surprised me because they are all well aware of my cancer situation and I personably think I am doing well just to complete any duty each day, but cancer or no cancer these managers want more out of me!
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Lapsing and cancer?
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Senior Service
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Re: Lapsing and cancer?
I'me sure Cancer is covered by the DDA (Disability Discrimination Act) and as such after an assessment by ATOS you should have reasonable adjustments made to your working day and certainly not to be pushed to exhaustion. If you are not in the CWU join now and then either approach your unit rep (If you have one) or failing that your divisional rep for advice. Good luck to you.
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rhino49
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Re: Lapsing and cancer?
They can only have out of you what you are paid to give. Your health is more important than RM's - No doubt they are aware of your health situation so simply slow down a little to conserve your energy if it looks as though you will complete early so that you finish on your contracted time and refuse to take on additional work. Overtime is NOT compulsory.postypie wrote:Hiya....undergoing cancer treatment at the moment and no doubt in the future but still doing full duties (for the time being) my concern/worry for the future is that when lapsing is brought back whether managers will expect me to do it?
To be honest I am having all on now to just do a duty as my strength and stamina isn't what is was for obvious reasons...furthermore another delivery office adjacent to ours has issues and quite often the guys over there leave mail/loops/walks in etc...can managers force me to deliver mail on any of these loops /walks if I get back slightly early on my own duty or not because two managers last week started to ask whether I was done and what time I was finished etc, which surprised me because they are all well aware of my cancer situation and I personably think I am doing well just to complete any duty each day, but cancer or no cancer these managers want more out of me!
If however you are struggling to work your contracted hours then get your GP involved and discuss a temporary reduction in hours to give you any rest needed until you start to make a recovery.
For probably the several hundredth time on here .... lapsing is designed to use up free time within your duty - it is NOT compulsory overtime. If it is going to take you over, treat it as an earning opportunity or refuse it.
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postypie
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Re: Lapsing and cancer?
Senior Service wrote:I'me sure Cancer is covered by the DDA (Disability Discrimination Act) and as such after an assessment by ATOS you should have reasonable adjustments made to your working day and certainly not to be pushed to exhaustion. If you are not in the CWU join now and then either approach your unit rep (If you have one) or failing that your divisional rep for advice. Good luck to you.
Cheers for the info mate...been in the CWU from the first week I started (20++ years)...to be honest haven't had much to do with Atos since my last biopsy so perhaps I need to talk to them again.
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Re: Lapsing and cancer?
This may seem brutal but it isn't meant to be. The fact that you have cancer has no direct bearing on whether you can do lapsing or not.
However, as Senior Service says it is recognised as a disability for the "Equality Act" Which replace the Disability Discrimination Act. The qualifying points are are here https://www.gov.uk/definition-of-disabi ... y-act-2010" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; but copied below:
I hope it all works out.
However, as Senior Service says it is recognised as a disability for the "Equality Act" Which replace the Disability Discrimination Act. The qualifying points are are here https://www.gov.uk/definition-of-disabi ... y-act-2010" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; but copied below:
Therefore you need to be assessed by OH Assist, and your duty/you need to be evaluated and risk assessed to help you cope with your condition.You’re disabled under the Equality Act 2010 if you have a physical or mental impairment that has a ‘substantial’ and ‘long-term’ negative effect on your ability to do normal daily activities.
What ‘substantial’ and ‘long-term’ mean
‘substantial’ is more than minor or trivial - eg it takes much longer than it usually would to complete a daily task like getting dressed
‘long-term’ means 12 months or more - eg a breathing condition that develops as a result of a lung infection
There are special rules about recurring or fluctuating conditions, for example, arthritis. For more details about the special rules download the ‘Equality Act Guidance’.
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Progressive conditions
A progressive condition is a condition that gets worse over time. People with progressive conditions can be classed as disabled.
However, you automatically meet the disability definition under the Equality Act 2010 from the day you’re diagnosed with HIV infection, cancer or multiple sclerosis.
What isn't counted as a disability
Some conditions aren't covered by the disability definition. These include addiction to non–prescribed drugs or alcohol. To find out about the conditions which aren't covered,
I hope it all works out.
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Himaggen
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Re: Lapsing and cancer?
You can request an attendance review discussion.
This can be used to officially inform the Employer that you have an underlying health problem and anticipate that it may affect your ability to maintain the attendance standards moving forward.
Use that opportunity to request an OH Assist referral, take your Rep in with you and ensure that the discussion is minuted and verified.
Because you have made the request in advance, you will be leading the discussion, (as opposed to when they call you in for one), and your Manager will find it harder to dismiss your issue and ignore the support they are supposed to provide you with.
This can be used to officially inform the Employer that you have an underlying health problem and anticipate that it may affect your ability to maintain the attendance standards moving forward.
Use that opportunity to request an OH Assist referral, take your Rep in with you and ensure that the discussion is minuted and verified.
Because you have made the request in advance, you will be leading the discussion, (as opposed to when they call you in for one), and your Manager will find it harder to dismiss your issue and ignore the support they are supposed to provide you with.
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pgtips
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Re: Lapsing and cancer?
If you've done 20+ yrs you should be well aware that RM don't give a flying fcuk about their employees health or safety & you're just a pay number.......... all they're concerned about is getting the mail out !
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farstrider
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Re: Lapsing and cancer?
i have arthritus on my left knee and now im struggling on my duty .. still finishing tho ..my partner is a runner
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downloaded DDA... STILL DONT UNDERSTAND IT ...if any of you guys have any guidance please post . im 50 next year and my knee is getting worse all the time .any help much appreciated
downloaded DDA... STILL DONT UNDERSTAND IT ...if any of you guys have any guidance please post . im 50 next year and my knee is getting worse all the time .any help much appreciated