Are delivery office manager has been telling people that an office has to change by 38% before a resign happens and that can stop it if he wants ?
Is this true ?
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Our dom is telling us 38% change before Revision
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enzio
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Our dom is telling us 38% change before Revision
Hope someone can answer a question please
Are delivery office manager has been telling people that an office has to change by 38% before a resign happens and that can stop it if he wants ?
Is this true ?
Are delivery office manager has been telling people that an office has to change by 38% before a resign happens and that can stop it if he wants ?
Is this true ?
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Reason: correct and changed title - it was a bit too generic to generate visits.
Reason: correct and changed title - it was a bit too generic to generate visits.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: are dom is telling us ?
Section 16.2 of the Way of Working Agreement defines "Major Change" as:
.the relocation or merger of units
.a significant process alteration arising from automated working or reshaping of the pipeline
.delivery revisions, which involve significant re-plotting of walks or significant restructuring of attendance
patterns (e.g. full time/part time mix, five-day weeks, "longs and shorts" or nights plus a first delivery, where
they are agreed).
For a re-selection exercise to be considered the extent of such a change must be that it has a significant
impact (in content and/or attendance times) on over 1/3 of the jobs in the unit. (New jobs should be included
in this number).
6. While it is not possible to be totally prescriptive as to what constitutes "significant", cases will need to be
judged on their merits, using the attached "Guidelines" (Annex 1). The test should be that it could be argued
that, to all intents and purposes, the job is no longer the one previously signed for.
7. The logical approach is to first confirm the number of unchanged jobs, using the Guidelines. For there to be
a full office re-sign the number of unchanged jobs must be less than two-thirds of the total (including
reserves). In these circumstances, the facility of a re-sign will be agreed with the changed and new duties
being jointly identified with the appropriate CWU representative, as specified in the "Procedure" section of
Annex 1. (The decision tree at Annex 2 illustrates where an Office/Unit re-sign is appropriate).
.the relocation or merger of units
.a significant process alteration arising from automated working or reshaping of the pipeline
.delivery revisions, which involve significant re-plotting of walks or significant restructuring of attendance
patterns (e.g. full time/part time mix, five-day weeks, "longs and shorts" or nights plus a first delivery, where
they are agreed).
For a re-selection exercise to be considered the extent of such a change must be that it has a significant
impact (in content and/or attendance times) on over 1/3 of the jobs in the unit. (New jobs should be included
in this number).
6. While it is not possible to be totally prescriptive as to what constitutes "significant", cases will need to be
judged on their merits, using the attached "Guidelines" (Annex 1). The test should be that it could be argued
that, to all intents and purposes, the job is no longer the one previously signed for.
7. The logical approach is to first confirm the number of unchanged jobs, using the Guidelines. For there to be
a full office re-sign the number of unchanged jobs must be less than two-thirds of the total (including
reserves). In these circumstances, the facility of a re-sign will be agreed with the changed and new duties
being jointly identified with the appropriate CWU representative, as specified in the "Procedure" section of
Annex 1. (The decision tree at Annex 2 illustrates where an Office/Unit re-sign is appropriate).
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dvbuk55
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Re: Our dom is telling us 38% change before Revision
Well I wouldn't say he can stop it but he can certainly drag his feet. How long is it since your revision?enzio wrote:Hope someone can answer a question please
Are delivery office manager has been telling people that an office has to change by 38% before a resign happens and that can stop it if he wants ?
Is this true ?
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IcanthelpthewayIam
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Re: Our dom is telling us 38% change before Revision
Just to add even if the content of a duty stays same but the start time alters that is counted as a changed duty.
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enzio
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Re: Our dom is telling us 38% change before Revision
can not say when the last revision was as we had major problems with the last one where we had to wait nearly two years for it well and truly stitched up as an office and this is just rumour dont want the same f#### up as last time.dvbuk55 wrote:Well I wouldn't say he can stop it but he can certainly drag his feet. How long is it since your revision?enzio wrote:Hope someone can answer a question please
Are delivery office manager has been telling people that an office has to change by 38% before a resign happens and that can stop it if he wants ?
Is this true ?
thanks for the answers