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mistheword
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Managers performing sorting duties

Post by mistheword »

Is there any guideline to how long a manager is allowed to perform sorting duties on each shift?.We have a on going situation at our mail center where flat and letter sorters are being moved on to packet/parcel sorting during the shift.There is no problem with this but when they are moved a manager will jump into their position and carry on sorting sometimes for most of the shift.I always though it was 10 minutes maxim per shift and only is office was going to fail to clear.
Can anybody clear this up
coxie
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by coxie »

Managers aren't supposed to do any sorting
DX
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by DX »

In my place the managers do sorting/trucking it is a normal sight. These are the time. :Very Happy
janitor
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by janitor »

So if the managers have spare capacity and have time to do OPG work, maybe they could lapse another office, think of how many more managers they could get rid of, if managers covered other offices, they could even afford to employ a few more OPGs, or even better demote them to OPGs.
international
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by international »

mistheword wrote:Is there any guideline to how long a manager is allowed to perform sorting duties on each shift?.We have a on going situation at our mail center where flat and letter sorters are being moved on to packet/parcel sorting during the shift.There is no problem with this but when they are moved a manager will jump into their position and carry on sorting sometimes for most of the shift.I always though it was 10 minutes maxim per shift and only is office was going to fail to clear.
Can anybody clear this up
To protect USO a manager will do what ever task Necessary
rehabron
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by rehabron »

A manager should only be stepping in to OPG work of the likelihood of a mail failure
obscurityknocks
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by obscurityknocks »

They do it simply to cover up the fact too many hours have been took out the indoor. Its happening everywhere. Get your rep to mention it to the dom that they have seen it and logged it down. If it carries on after this get your rep to put it thorough the ir framework. I can assure you the DSM I have dealt with in the past isn't happy when they hear they are paying managers to do OPG work.
britwrit
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by britwrit »

You see it occasionally are our place as well. But never to the extent that a manager winds up doing the work an OPG could have done for a 4-or-8-hour overtime shift.
janitor
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by janitor »

Well apparently at my old office the managers still do sorting, prepping deliveries and doing cut offs. When I was there it wasn't unusual for managers and the DOM to do two compleat deliveries a day, and prep three or four complete deliveries or more, including managers prepping the lapsing.
BarnsleyLackey
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by BarnsleyLackey »

We have about five line managers at our office. Sorting and walk prepping is a daily job for them. We could get away with two or three of them, but due to poor staffing levels, they are needed for this work, as well as the usual horsesh!t. The fact that they shouldn't be doing it means nothing to our DOM; as does early starters. This, refusal of OT payments and all round piss-poor attitudes are the norm. It's all about their bonuses now.
24601
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by 24601 »

Our night 'manager' sorts all night !!!
freelunch
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by freelunch »

If any of our managers was to try their hand at sorting word would very quickly spread round the office.
A big crowd would gather to witness the event, mobile phone cameras would be clicking.
Everyone would stop what they were doing :crazy: :crazy:
"Everybody has a plan.. until they get punched in the face" - Mike Tyson
Chelseablue
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by Chelseablue »

Is the sick absence ,staff shortage , bad all over the uk ? Bad in our place
mistheword
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by mistheword »

staff shortage bad so many duties have gone under evr. managers not allowed to bring staff in on overtime. clearance failures are happening regularly never see mail center manager on our shift seems out of touch with his office.the more hours they can lapse the happy he is.
BarnsleyLackey
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Re: Managers performing sorting duties

Post by BarnsleyLackey »

I've never seen so much will-full delay. Makes me ashamed to be a mailman.