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trouble
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hospital appointments when you are a carer.

Post by trouble »

Hello
Can anyone shed some light as to what the rules are regarding hospital appointments when you are a carer for either disabled children or a partner.
2 people from my office are having problems with trying to get time off to attend hospital appointments - management want them to swop there days off even if they have other plans made for there day off or come in and do IPS and prep but lose a full days pay.
Management are implying that it is not there problem and that they are under no obligation to give the 2 people in question the time off but if they do it is with no pay is this correct?
101 questions are also being asked in regards to what they are doing on there days off that they can’t swop, why they are being unreasonable, etc
Any help is appreciated so I can pass on the information
rehabron
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Re: hospital appointments when you are a carer.

Post by rehabron »

For hospital appointments with consultation by a specialist who work within their own limited surgery hours then a special leave request form should be completed and is paid and at mangers discretion but difficult to refuse. At the other end of the scale if it was a hospital appointment to visit an out-patient department then it would not be unreasonable for the appointment to be made outwith working hours. Any appointments that can be rearranged would be unpaid special leave or be deducted from holiday entitlement. You can request flexible working for a disabled child up to the age of 18 which is the law but employer can refuse on business needs but again would have to have a good reason for refusing. Paid special leave is available for URGENT DOMESTIC DISTRESS and on certain conditions can be extended to 3 days.
coxie
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Post by coxie »

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... er#p513441" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Read that thread it might be of interest, they are allowed to take time of unpaid and only need to inform the employer and not seek permission . Tell them not to expect to be paid though.
clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

If you are a carer for a person with a disability, then you have the same rights and protections as if you were the disabled person yourself.
Failure to provide reasonable adjustments is disability discrimination.
Get on to your Branches disability champion or contact Linda Roy.
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celerycelery
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Re: hospital appointments when you are a carer.

Post by celerycelery »

It's known as disability by association.
phronsias
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Post by phronsias »

clashcityrocker wrote:If you are a carer for a person with a disability, then you have the same rights and protections as if you were the disabled person yourself.
Failure to provide reasonable adjustments is disability discrimination.
Get on to your Branches disability champion or contact Linda Roy.
Hi
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Throgg
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Post by Throgg »

I have a kid who is disabled and sees a specialist at least once every 3 months, i take a days parental leave each time he has an appointment.
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Post by Pinky 1 »

rehabron wrote:For hospital appointments with consultation by a specialist who work within their own limited surgery hours then a special leave request form should be completed and is paid and at mangers discretion but difficult to refuse.
Although a CWU agreement this is not Royal Mail policy rehabron, this only covers BT employees ......

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rehabron
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Re: hospital appointments when you are a carer.

Post by rehabron »

Pinky 1 wrote:
rehabron wrote:For hospital appointments with consultation by a specialist who work within their own limited surgery hours then a special leave request form should be completed and is paid and at mangers discretion but difficult to refuse.
Although a CWU agreement this is not Royal Mail policy rehabron, this only covers BT employees ......

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 1&start=15" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Does in our office and we are not BT employees pinky1
Bahia Feliz
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Post by Bahia Feliz »

phronsias wrote: Hi
Ive sent 3 emails to Linda Roy, no answer, so I gave up!
Good to see your union subs are not being wasted!
arnold cheshire
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Re: hospital appointments when you are a carer.

Post by arnold cheshire »

how many hours do you work ? if your working 39 surely you can not legally be a carer receiving cares allowance
janitor
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Re: hospital appointments when you are a carer.

Post by janitor »

To get carers allowance you need to be a carer for 35 hours or mor a week, so as there's more than 74 hours in a week yes they would be entitled to carers, subject to the person being cared for meeting the requirements.
arnold cheshire
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Post by arnold cheshire »

janitor wrote:To get carers allowance you need to be a carer for 35 hours or mor a week, so as there's more than 74 hours in a week yes they would be entitled to carers, subject to the person being cared for meeting the requirements.
ive just looked into it you can not earn more than 100 pound a week
arnold cheshire
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Post by arnold cheshire »

bringon4dayweeks wrote:
janitor wrote:To get carers allowance you need to be a carer for 35 hours or mor a week, so as there's more than 74 hours in a week yes they would be entitled to carers, subject to the person being cared for meeting the requirements.
ive just looked into it you can not earn more than 100 pound a week
https://www.gov.uk/carers-allowance/eligibility" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
janitor
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Post by janitor »

Obviously been a recent change, as I was offered it for my dad 2 years ago although I was working full time for RM, though I never claimed it , I was eligible. What I quoted above was what the DWP said at the time.