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claystones
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lapsing

Post by claystones »

our office is lapsing 2 duties but all the other local delivery offices arent doing any lapsing should we be lapsing
celerycelery
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Re: lapsing

Post by celerycelery »

claystones wrote:our office is lapsing 2 duties but all the other local delivery offices arent doing any lapsing should we be lapsing
Have you time in your working day to take any more mail than what you have on your frame? If the answer is yes every day then expect to take some every day, if the answer is yes some days then expect to take some on those days, if the answer is no because i start on time, do 1/6th of d2d's a day, take my full breaks and use the proper equipment for the round then don't do any extra at all.
clashcityrocker
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Re: lapsing

Post by clashcityrocker »

claystones wrote:our office is lapsing 2 duties but all the other local delivery offices arent doing any lapsing should we be lapsing
It would depend on the model week being used and if traffic is below model week.
It would depend on the f/t to p/t ratio in the offices.
It might also depend on who is on holiday/off sick etc.
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Son Of God
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Post by Son Of God »

celerycelery wrote:
claystones wrote:our office is lapsing 2 duties but all the other local delivery offices arent doing any lapsing should we be lapsing
Have you time in your working day to take any more mail than what you have on your frame? If the answer is yes every day then expect to take some every day, if the answer is yes some days then expect to take some on those days, if the answer is no because i start on time, do 1/6th of d2d's a day, take my full breaks and use the proper equipment for the round then don't do any extra at all.
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bigal383
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Re: lapsing

Post by bigal383 »

use your trollies work to rule take your breaks and you wont need to lapse u tools!
clashcityrocker
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Re: lapsing

Post by clashcityrocker »

bigal383 wrote:use your trollies work to rule take your breaks and you wont need to lapse u tools!
Nothing personal but I am a little tired of reading this nonsense.
If your model week is 60 000 items/day and on a given day you have 30 000 items in the office what difference is starting on time, taking your break and using your trolley going to make?
Your indoor workload (and probably your outdoor) will be severely reduced and there will be opportunities for lapsing.
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gand
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Re: lapsing

Post by gand »

clashcityrocker wrote:
bigal383 wrote:use your trollies work to rule take your breaks and you wont need to lapse u tools!
Nothing personal but I am a little tired of reading this nonsense.
If your model week is 60 000 items/day and on a given day you have 30 000 items in the office what difference is starting on time, taking your break and using your trolley going to make?
Your indoor workload (and probably your outdoor) will be severely reduced and there will be opportunities for lapsing.


Because you can have less mail and the same call rate?
mushy124
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Post by mushy124 »

well said celery :nana
clashcityrocker
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Re: lapsing

Post by clashcityrocker »

gand wrote:
Because you can have less mail and the same call rate?
But that only relates to your outdoor workload.
If you only have 600 items to prep instead of 1300 or if you are only on IPS for 40 minutes instead of 90 then your indoor workload allows lapsing opportunities.
And that may be dependant on the arrival time of your second wave or whatever but this idea that "doing the job properly" means you don't have to lapse ever is just rubbish.
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Straight4ward
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Re: lapsing

Post by Straight4ward »

clashcityrocker wrote:
gand wrote:
Because you can have less mail and the same call rate?
But that only relates to your outdoor workload.
If you only have 600 items to prep instead of 1300 or if you are only on IPS for 40 minutes instead of 90 then your indoor workload allows lapsing opportunities.
And that may be dependant on the arrival time of your second wave or whatever but this idea that "doing the job properly" means you don't have to lapse ever is just rubbish.
Clash,
stop upsetting people, by pointing out the bleedin' obvious, will you? :chuckle
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bigal383
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Re: lapsing

Post by bigal383 »

clash ,sounds to me like youve been brain washed by your management team with these figures. you do your lapsing pal in the meantime ill have my feet up chilling thinking of you pal

ALL THE BEST WI THE LAPSING
clashcityrocker
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Re: lapsing

Post by clashcityrocker »

bigal383 wrote:clash ,sounds to me like youve been brain washed by your management team with these figures. you do your lapsing pal in the meantime ill have my feet up chilling thinking of you pal

ALL THE BEST WI THE LAPSING
I don't start early. I use my trolley. I don't cut corners. I do 1/6th of my D2D daily.
On some days there is not sufficient work to fill my contracted hours, consequently there is lapsing.
I could work slowly and pretend I have enough work, or I could slope off the IPS for 30 minutes and leave my colleagues to cover my workload. Neither of those options appeal to me.
Lapsing to fill all your contracted hours is as agreed with CWU.

You can sit with your feet up if you think that is the honest way to behave.
I don't think the feckless and the workshy are going to save RM or our jobs.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
gand
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Re: lapsing

Post by gand »

So what about when your over your contracted hours and then bullied into doing lappsing as your other work Colleagues come in early and don't take breaks? And your revision was planned around these people? In my division under the so called knew way of working they have stopped these people from doing just that this week, and they are now all over their time were before they could lapse.
Son Of God
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Post by Son Of God »

gand wrote:So what about when your over your contracted hours and then bullied into doing lappsing as your other work Colleagues come in early and don't take breaks? And your revision was planned around these people? In my division under the so called knew way of working they have stopped these people from doing just that this week, and they are now all over their time were before they could lapse.
And how exactly have they stopped these people?
gand
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Re: lapsing

Post by gand »

Son Of God wrote:
gand wrote:So what about when your over your contracted hours and then bullied into doing lappsing as your other work Colleagues come in early and don't take breaks? And your revision was planned around these people? In my division under the so called knew way of working they have stopped these people from doing just that this week, and they are now all over their time were before they could lapse.
And how exactly have they stopped these people?
Management told them to start on time and take their breaks I foresee it not lasting to long.