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Perspective
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Martin Walsh
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Perspective
Look some of you may know the heat is on and I can no longer safely give information out.
But I do have an opinion which they cannot stop.
There will now be an agreement. That in my opinion is no longer in doubt and will probably be concluded before the Moya Greene managers roadshow on Friday.
Yes the extensions have been frustrating and the lack of information even more so.
But the aim of the ballot and the unions campaign has always to get a deal.
I think that we should all now reserve our position on the words of the agreement when it eventually comes out. It will be that what decides whether you think its was a good enough deal not to jeopardise by taking action.
Those who say they will reject the deal whatever it says is mindless. Lets see the overall agreement and then decide. I dont think we will have too long to wait.
But I do have an opinion which they cannot stop.
There will now be an agreement. That in my opinion is no longer in doubt and will probably be concluded before the Moya Greene managers roadshow on Friday.
Yes the extensions have been frustrating and the lack of information even more so.
But the aim of the ballot and the unions campaign has always to get a deal.
I think that we should all now reserve our position on the words of the agreement when it eventually comes out. It will be that what decides whether you think its was a good enough deal not to jeopardise by taking action.
Those who say they will reject the deal whatever it says is mindless. Lets see the overall agreement and then decide. I dont think we will have too long to wait.
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thehappyones
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 305
- Joined: 08 Nov 2007, 11:42
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
Yep,totally agree
thanks for all the info u have furnished us with in the lead up to this agreement
thanks for all the info u have furnished us with in the lead up to this agreement
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
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OnAFlyer
- Posts: 1938
- Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 14:24
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
I don't think there's been any doubt over the last few weeks that an agreement is coming, once the extensions started and it started getting close to Christmas pressure we were never going on strike.
Let's hope the agreement is worth waiting for, thanks for the info you've posted up Dingo.
Let's hope the agreement is worth waiting for, thanks for the info you've posted up Dingo.
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postality
- Posts: 57
- Joined: 14 Feb 2013, 22:03
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
thehappyones wrote:Yep,totally agree
thanks for all the info u have furnished us with in the lead up to this agreement
Here here, thanks dingo.
Weve got people in our office who were talking about crossing the picket line now shouting and wailing at how crap the union are. As ive said in another post i think it's purely a money issue for too many and a lump of money will swing it whatever the rest of the agreement is.
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RTP
- Posts: 863
- Joined: 22 Apr 2011, 14:24
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
Yeah thanks dingo. if it wasn't for the snippets of information you've provided the frustration of lack of information would have been far worse.
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mojothefishmo
- Posts: 132
- Joined: 20 Oct 2009, 19:15
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
Thanks Dingo lets all stay calm and see what it says when it arrives
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Himaggen
- Posts: 993
- Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 23:40
Re: Perspective
Remember when we were told that there will be no deal unless every one of the issues had been met!dingo wrote:But the aim of the ballot and the unions campaign has always to get a deal.
The pensions issue has not been met, simply put away for another day so would you be in a position to refute that the same isn't about to happen with the delivery issues too?
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meweavy
- Posts: 473
- Joined: 10 May 2007, 11:07
Re: Perspective
thanks dingo,lets hope the agreement was worth the wait.
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Jynxx
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 198
- Joined: 07 Oct 2010, 16:48
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
Thank you for what information you've brought forward Dingo it's greatly appreciated.

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feduppostie
- Posts: 947
- Joined: 24 Jun 2007, 19:46
Re: Perspective
Thanks Dingo
As the only source of any info you always take a tremendous amount of flak for what you post
Don't ever think we don't appreciate you sticking your neck out to post it though
Even if we are sometimes a bit grumpy when we read what you say
As the only source of any info you always take a tremendous amount of flak for what you post
Don't ever think we don't appreciate you sticking your neck out to post it though
Even if we are sometimes a bit grumpy when we read what you say
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thebiggestman
- Posts: 44
- Joined: 15 Feb 2010, 22:10
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
Well give the information unsafely
Hold a hot cup of tea and Jaffa cakes in one hand and type with the other
Go on Dingo you know you wanna!!!!
Hold a hot cup of tea and Jaffa cakes in one hand and type with the other
Go on Dingo you know you wanna!!!!
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mvinny
- Posts: 67
- Joined: 13 Mar 2009, 15:09
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
Yes many thanks Dingo for all the info over the past weeks.
If it wasn't for you we wouldn't have had hardly any news so thanks for keeping us 'posted' !
If it wasn't for you we wouldn't have had hardly any news so thanks for keeping us 'posted' !
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halfull
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 858
- Joined: 22 Jan 2011, 13:37
- Gender: Male
Re: Perspective
unless delivery is sorted out they can shove any deal. Pay does not mean anything if we have got to keep living through hell everyday. Yes your right we can all have an opinion and here is the opinion of thousands of postmen/women: GET DAVE AND BILLY IN OUR DO'S & SEE WHAT OUR WORKLOAD IS LIKE & WHAT WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH FROM MANAGERS! Then go & get a deal that sorts the mess out!dingo wrote:Look some of you may know the heat is on and I can no longer safely give information out.
But I do have an opinion which they cannot stop.
There will now be an agreement. That in my opinion is no longer in doubt and will probably be concluded before the Moya Greene managers roadshow on Friday.
Yes the extensions have been frustrating and the lack of information even more so.
But the aim of the ballot and the unions campaign has always to get a deal.
I think that we should all now reserve our position on the words of the agreement when it eventually comes out. It will be that what decides whether you think its was a good enough deal not to jeopardise by taking action.
Those who say they will reject the deal whatever it says is mindless. Lets see the overall agreement and then decide. I dont think we will have too long to wait.
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TrueBlueTerrier
- FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 72713
- Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
- Gender: Male
- Location: On my couch
Re: Perspective
from another FB post
To All & Sunder. Let's look at the finer detail of the agreement. Far too easy shooting from the backbenches. A good rep will get the best from it. A member criticises and holds someones coats,(HQ). Back your reps! If you do not have one,then stand! If you are a manager on here,watch your back! A headcount has been asked for "surplus" managers from the new owners! A lot of money saved! The CWU are on the negotiating table. The CMA? Not!
To All & Sunder. Let's look at the finer detail of the agreement. Far too easy shooting from the backbenches. A good rep will get the best from it. A member criticises and holds someones coats,(HQ). Back your reps! If you do not have one,then stand! If you are a manager on here,watch your back! A headcount has been asked for "surplus" managers from the new owners! A lot of money saved! The CWU are on the negotiating table. The CMA? Not!
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fishtank
- Posts: 19732
- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
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Re: Perspective
Delusional gibberish and rep blaming.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:A good rep will get the best from it.
A good rep is only as good as the support he/she receives from above and below.
It's also a good idea to remember who paid for the coat in the first place.A member criticises and holds someones coats
Fair enough but you also need the time,the patience and the support of at least the majority of members.At the end of the day the union gathers subs on the basis of representing all members so if an office doesn't have a rep it's down to the branch to see that those members don't get screwed over.If you do not have one,then stand!
At the negotiating table not on it,unless they are part of the menu or something entirely inappropriate is occurring.The CWU are on the negotiating table.
I hate this jingoistic crap about as much as the "union shafted us" crap,It usually comes from someone who hasn't seen a hard day's work in a long time.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share