Impose an Agreement?

[FinishOnTime]

So one of the reasons we are currently having a strike ballot is that we want an agreement guaranteeing our Terms and Conditions for maybe at least a 5 year period. The assumption seems to be is that at the end of any such guarantee a privatised Royal Mail will come down heavily on hard won rights, bringing us downwards into line with most of the industry.

Anyone know why, in the absence of any such agreement in the next few weeks, the newly privatised Royal Mail won't just do that straight away, walk away from the negotiating table, and use any strike as an excuse to change our Ts & Cs immediately? If we think they will do it in 3 years, why wouldn't they consider it now?

[viking1488]

So one of the reasons we are currently having a strike ballot is that we want an agreement guaranteeing our Terms and Conditions for maybe at least a 5 year period. The assumption seems to be is that at the end of any such guarantee a privatised Royal Mail will come down heavily on hard won rights, bringing us downwards into line with most of the industry.

Anyone know why, in the absence of any such agreement in the next few weeks, the newly privatised Royal Mail won't just do that straight away, walk away from the negotiating table, and use any strike as an excuse to change our Ts & Cs immediately? If we think they will do it in 3 years, why wouldn't they consider it now?

they could do this depends on how hard ball they want to play this has already gone through my head and it could be possible I would not put anything past them they only have to give 90 days notice to change Ts & Cs

[UnhappyGremlin]

So one of the reasons we are currently having a strike ballot is that we want an agreement guaranteeing our Terms and Conditions for maybe at least a 5 year period. The assumption seems to be is that at the end of any such guarantee a privatised Royal Mail will come down heavily on hard won rights, bringing us downwards into line with most of the industry.

Anyone know why, in the absence of any such agreement in the next few weeks, the newly privatised Royal Mail won't just do that straight away, walk away from the negotiating table, and use any strike as an excuse to change our Ts & Cs immediately? If we think they will do it in 3 years, why wouldn't they consider it now?

they could do this depends on how hard ball they want to play this has already gone through my head and it could be possible I would not put anything past them they only have to give 90 days notice to change Ts & Cs

But that would only result in a massive strike, wildcat style.
They want the company to continue to do business, and they cannot replace 150,000 experienced staff overnight.
Can't see much change for at least a year and a half.
But once they start, they'll never stop.

[scirocco'r']

As we own ten per cent of the company perhaps we could pledge the voting rights to the CWU and demand a seat on the Board in order to vote against executive action. It is likely that our block of shares would be the single largest after the Governments retained share.

[DOM]

As we own ten per cent of the company perhaps we could pledge the voting rights to the CWU and demand a seat on the Board in order to vote against executive action. It is likely that our block of shares would be the single largest after the Governments retained share.

I would think a seat on the board would have been offered to CWU and declined so not to show support for it.

[north london driver]

As we own ten per cent of the company perhaps we could pledge the voting rights to the CWU and demand a seat on the Board in order to vote against executive action. It is likely that our block of shares would be the single largest after the Governments retained share.

I would think a seat on the board would have been offered to CWU and declined so not to show support for it.

more like there not paying enough for our top cwu members to sit on a board.

[FinishOnTime]

So one of the reasons we are currently having a strike ballot is that we want an agreement guaranteeing our Terms and Conditions for maybe at least a 5 year period. The assumption seems to be is that at the end of any such guarantee a privatised Royal Mail will come down heavily on hard won rights, bringing us downwards into line with most of the industry.

Anyone know why, in the absence of any such agreement in the next few weeks, the newly privatised Royal Mail won't just do that straight away, walk away from the negotiating table, and use any strike as an excuse to change our Ts & Cs immediately? If we think they will do it in 3 years, why wouldn't they consider it now?

they could do this depends on how hard ball they want to play this has already gone through my head and it could be possible I would not put anything past them they only have to give 90 days notice to change Ts & Cs

But that would only result in a massive strike, wildcat style.
They want the company to continue to do business, and they cannot replace 150,000 experienced staff overnight.
Can't see much change for at least a year and a half.
But once they start, they'll never stop.

But we all assume that confrontation will come sooner or later. With strikes and everything that goes with it. I'm just not sure why RM wouldn't want to get on with it, if that's what their intention is.

[UnhappyGremlin]

So one of the reasons we are currently having a strike ballot is that we want an agreement guaranteeing our Terms and Conditions for maybe at least a 5 year period. The assumption seems to be is that at the end of any such guarantee a privatised Royal Mail will come down heavily on hard won rights, bringing us downwards into line with most of the industry.

Anyone know why, in the absence of any such agreement in the next few weeks, the newly privatised Royal Mail won't just do that straight away, walk away from the negotiating table, and use any strike as an excuse to change our Ts & Cs immediately? If we think they will do it in 3 years, why wouldn't they consider it now?

they could do this depends on how hard ball they want to play this has already gone through my head and it could be possible I would not put anything past them they only have to give 90 days notice to change Ts & Cs

But that would only result in a massive strike, wildcat style.
They want the company to continue to do business, and they cannot replace 150,000 experienced staff overnight.
Can't see much change for at least a year and a half.
But once they start, they'll never stop.

But we all assume that confrontation will come sooner or later. With strikes and everything that goes with it. I'm just not sure why RM wouldn't want to get on with it, if that's what their intention is.

They wouldn't dive in because it would prove them liars, as they have stated that T&C's/Pay etc. will remain the same.
Plus, it would result in ferocious and extended IA, which would be very damaging to the company, and the share price/values, which would be highly embarrassing for them, and the Government.
And, if that confrontation does come, as expected, they can have plausible deniability if it happens after someone/a company gets a majority shareholding.