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Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

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BoltonPostie
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Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

Post by BoltonPostie »

What documents and such am I entitled to to mount a defense against a complaint I had about me upheld :roll: ,am I right in thinking that i am entitled to ALL witness statements(even if they have to anonymize the witnesess names) all interview notes both made contemporaneously and afterwards?
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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

Post by spoodoo »

If you bullied someone erm none!
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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

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spoodoo wrote:If you bullied someone erm none!
Have you ever thought of becoming a Royal Mail Bullying and Harassment `investigator`? :roll: :cuppa
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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

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iii The complainant and respondent will be provided with copies of all relevant information relating to the case. Documents will be reviewed to ensure that personal details e.g. phone numbers, home addresses are removed. Anonymisation should only be considered where the investigating manager believes there is a real fear of intimidation or reprisal where a specific legitimate request for anonymity has been made by a witness.
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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

Post by BoltonPostie »

Thank you very much fishtank.
Much appreciated. :Applause
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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

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Does not matter what documents you get ,if they want rid of you believe me been there got told only yesterday that the manager that dismissed me had a list of people he w :evil/mad anted out.of my old office only hope for his sake we dont cross paths
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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

Post by whisperstar24 »

if you have witnesses that would support your case ,then use them in your appeal. Your appeal manager will only be looking for new evidence in the appeal to justify overturning the decision. You are entitled to see all witness statements against you and the identity will only be protected if the appeals managers feels there would be a compromise or safety issue.
Look and see if the charges against you have changed and they have been consistent throughout. Look for contradictions in the witness statements against you. Look for facts not hearsay as this doesn't count.You have not stated if you have been dismissed so I am not sure.


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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

Post by BoltonPostie »

fishtank wrote:
iii The complainant and respondent will be provided with copies of all relevant information relating to the case. Documents will be reviewed to ensure that personal details e.g. phone numbers, home addresses are removed. Anonymisation should only be considered where the investigating manager believes there is a real fear of intimidation or reprisal where a specific legitimate request for anonymity has been made by a witness.
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http://www.cwu.org/assets/_files/docume ... eement.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I requested everything I could think of that would help my case,got a letter today saying that as the B&H case was taken out before 1st July 2013 that I am NOT entitled to see anything!!
Think that they don't want me to be able to piece the `investigator` cherry picking bits out of statements...the corrupt twats. :no no
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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

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Any Reps know what to do? :cuppa
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Re: Bullying and Harassment Appeal.

Post by fishtank »

Shambles wrote:
BoltonPostie wrote:
fishtank wrote:
iii The complainant and respondent will be provided with copies of all relevant information relating to the case. Documents will be reviewed to ensure that personal details e.g. phone numbers, home addresses are removed. Anonymised.

I requested everything I could think of that would help my case,got a letter today saying that as the B&H case was taken out before 1st July 2013 that I am NOT entitled to see anything!!
Think that they don't want me to be able to piece the `investigator` cherry picking bits out of statements...the corrupt twats. :no no



Any Reps know what to do? :cuppa


Call their bluff,It's bullshit.

The old B&H appeal procedure had almost exactly the same wording.

http://www.cwu-e4.co.uk/Definitive_RMG_ ... cedure.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

iii) Complainants and Respondents will have access to all relevant information affecting their case,subject to the consideration of the Investigation of the removal of personal details that may lead to the identification of any individual from statements in response to requests from the complainant or witnesses for anonymity.
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