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skinbo
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Holiday leave

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Could somebody let me know what the agreed amount of staff is allowed of in any holiday period
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Re: Holiday leave

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No set figure, it depends very much on the size of the Delivery Office and number of staff working therein.
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Re: Holiday leave

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we havent had a leave sheets for 2013 /2014 yet not that im complaining as i feel that we are normally given them to early
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Unofficialish but kinda official,and a common sense way would be...
Amount of staff x by 6 weeks (what ever member 'could' be entitled to) divided by 52 weeks but minus the xmas pressure weeks.

So my office is...
35x6=210/50=4.2

We have slots of 4 off all year round except xmas pressure weeks.
As a rule not everyone will have the full 6 weeks allocation,so there will be weeks to play around with.

With summer lapsing,as part of the P&M agreement we,and also you guys could get extra holiday slots added.
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Re: Holiday leave

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POSTMAN wrote:
With summer lapsing,as part of the P&M agreement we,and also you guys could get extra holiday slots added.
Whats the name of that agreement, I need some info on lapsing and extra leave, but can't remember which agreement it was, I thought it was BT2010 but I can't find any thing about lapsing in it. So a quick heads up would be gratfully received.
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trythat wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
With summer lapsing,as part of the P&M agreement we,and also you guys could get extra holiday slots added.
Whats the name of that agreement, I need some info on lapsing and extra leave, but can't remember which agreement it was, I thought it was BT2010 but I can't find any thing about lapsing in it. So a quick heads up would be gratfully received.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12462" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: Holiday leave

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we have more off in summer as we agreed to damn lapsing!!!!!!!!!1
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Lapsing in the summer (and all year round with a different name) is here to stay,get the most out of it to your advantage,in the summer that is.
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: Holiday leave

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POSTMAN wrote:
trythat wrote:
POSTMAN wrote:
With summer lapsing,as part of the P&M agreement we,and also you guys could get extra holiday slots added.
Whats the name of that agreement, I need some info on lapsing and extra leave, but can't remember which agreement it was, I thought it was BT2010 but I can't find any thing about lapsing in it. So a quick heads up would be gratfully received.
http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12462" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cheers, I can only find this though 'Efficient Summer staffing – each unit will utilise the opportunity offered by reduced traffic volumes to re-arrange responsibilities during the summer period. This will offer employees additional opportunities for leave during the same period. '

But I thought I read some agreement that actually mentioned 'absorbing' or 'lapsing' by name. But so much crap from RM perhaps I imagined it :), we've already agreed to lapse some duties in the summer to get extra leave in the summer, but I need something in my agreement with DOM for when they want to lapse more than we've agreed.
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Re: Holiday leave

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Things seem to have changed so much since P&M 1st came in.
I rem that at 1st we had to negotiate how many absences,certain traffic figures ect there was in the office before lapsing/absorbing could be considered.
It never happened at my place cause we've never done it.


The impression around seems to be the screws can do as many as they like.
The only thing is if it does not affect the QOS with cutoffs ect and it can be managed in duty time then we can't argue,work all hrs paid mantra.
But what seems to happen in a lot of places is that if the QOS is affected,reps do not fight it.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.