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Post by ag000317 »

Have completed my first six months and given a new fixed term contract.
Joined union as a Rep and now manager trying to get rid of me by completing my six month probationary period review that is negative towards me.
Am I right in thinking because he sanctioned my new contract he cannot now change his mind and try to do use the probationary 6 month trial.
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ag000317 wrote:Have completed my first six months and given a new fixed term contract.
Joined union as a Rep and now manager trying to get rid of me by completing my six month probationary period review that is negative towards me.
Am I right in thinking because he sanctioned my new contract he cannot now change his mind and try to do use the probationary 6 month trial.
so your now union rep after 6 months ?
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something doesn't quite add up here.
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Post by POSTMAN »

His previous post states he's the rep.

Now rightly or wrongly,coming into the job 'on trial' then making some noise by being the rep is (because the business is shite and a lot of managers are scum) asking for trouble. :neutral:
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I was a Union Rep in my last job and therefore had the experience needed to challenge a bully of a DSM. No one dare challenge him and Indo not like bullies.. Yes after only six months is quick but someone needed to do something. What do you do wait until you have 2 years service .?
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My view is you should take your name off the bottom of your post. :roll:
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General Mannerheim wrote:My view is you should take your name off the bottom of your post. :roll:
The reptiles like to monitor this site and wankmans(RM lawyers)will have some nice paperwork to work on if you keep disclosing to the great unwashed on here. :cuppa
it might be a fake name ? what would happen if it put a fake name but it was someone from my office ? means nothing .
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Post by clashcityrocker »

I don't think him putting his real name will make a lot of difference now.......

Dear Colleague

Dismissal: Tony Garrick

You will probably be aware that Tony Garrick the Union Rep in Duns was dismissed in November last year. We were informed that his appeal had failed.

Can I make it clear that this Branch and the Union Nationally are absolutely positive that Tony was dismissed because he was the Union Rep. The fact of the matter is if he had not taken on the job as Rep he would still be employed.

Last year the Branch were pleased that we managed to elect a Unit Rep in Duns Delivery Office. Tony was just the type of rep we were looking for. Tony attended a couple of training courses in the branch and came across as very able rep. Tony became very active as a rep and was challenging managers as he was trained to do. He was appreciated by the members in Duns because for once they had rep in their office that was defending their Terms and Conditions.

Management were not happy that in the Borders they had an active Union rep to contend with so they made trumped up charges and Tony was dismissed in November for allegedly failing his trial period. We expected Tony to be dealt with under the reps procedure but because Royal Mail stated he was not dismissed for conduct it was under the Trial Procedure they refused.

Dave Ward DGSP took his case up with Royal Mail and it was agreed that his appeal would go ahead and before the outcome was declared it would be reviewed by Dave Ward and Peter Walls a very senior manager from Royal Mail HQ. We received the decision and the dismissal still stands. The members in Duns will now be balloted for Industrial Action and if deemed necessary the wider membership may be balloted as well. We cannot allow Royal Mail to get away with treating our reps in this way because there’s no doubt about it if Tony had not become a rep he would still be employed with the business.



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ag000317 wrote:I was a Union Rep in my last job and therefore had the experience needed to challenge a bully of a DSM. No one dare challenge him and Indo not like bullies.. Yes after only six months is quick but someone needed to do something. What do you do wait until you have 2 years service .?

As a Union member I am proud of what you did Tony, and I hope the Union keeps their promise and gives us all a chance to show solidarity with your cause. As an employee of Royal Mail I am frankly disgusted at their treatment of you. It does show, once again, that Royal Mail will say one thing as a Company, yet let their managers run wild and undermine any real chance of changing the "us and them" culture in Royal Mail.

We need a professional approach in management, not a "I'll cover your back if you cover mine", and we need committed reps, of which I count you as one, to give this business any chance of improving Industrial Relations and as a consequence also improve productivity. A worker who feels oppressed and isolated is hardly going to show the level of commitment Royal Mail keep asking for.
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Post by dvbuk55 »

We are always saying you need the union to support you but in this case and at the DGSP level it proved fruitless. I wonder if Dave Ward made it clear that they would ballot and support industrial action.