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postyrob
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deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by postyrob »

Hi all, I really need some advice as I think my line manager is trying to get me to resign. over the last six months I feel that I have been victimised by my line manager. For some unknown reason i think he has taken a dislike to me and has been making my work life as hard as possible. i haven't been given a regular duty to do and have been doing a different duty everyday of the week, often putting me on a duty which i haven't done before. 3 weeks ago we had four new starters and since then I haven't been given a duty at all and have been coming in in the afternoon to do a collection to make up the 20 hrs. a couple of months ago I had a meeting with the line manager and in it he said 'if I had my way I would have sacked you by now'. this set the alarm bells ringing. in this meeting I said that I wasn't happy with being put on a different duty everyday as I was finding it hard not make little mistakes.

I asked to be given just one duty with a regular start time like everyone else has. he is changing my start time every day often without telling me so I turn up late. It is making it hard because I have a 9 month old son and I have to arrange times for him to be picked up. This hasn't happened and nothing has changed, infact I think its worse as like I said, I have been given no duty at all for three weeks. I feel I can't speak to him anymore as he will just make things worse. i'm very stressed all the time and I just feel like I'm at breaking point. I can't keep playing 'silent wars' with him anymore. its starting to affect my health.
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by Stormproof »

Has your Rep given you any advice?
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


Illegitimi non carborundum
postyrob
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by postyrob »

No there currently isn't a rep at my office because the last one stopped doing it last year.
arnold cheshire
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by arnold cheshire »

see the area rep and put in a greviance form
postyrob
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by postyrob »

How do I get hold of the area rep? I've no experience with unions so don't know how it works.
Stormproof
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

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On your membership card it will have your Union Branch name, go on http://www.cwu.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and find the list of branches. That will have your branch contact details on it.
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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Blue29
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by Blue29 »

Sorry to hear your oh so typical situation. You are being bullied and victimised. Don't think you might be. From what you have said it IS happening. It is happening to many so you are not alone. That behaviour by your line manager is not acceptable, being told he would have you sacked is not acceptable in any way. Having your start times messed with is again unacceptable behaviour, although this might play to your favour as you will have systematic proof of what has been going on. RM should have policies in place to address this. As an employee you should have been informed of what to do in the case where bullying is occurring. Strangely, I haven't been informed of the procedure like you. Again this is not acceptable under UK employment law. The only way I can see you may be treated fairly is by doing as the others say and put in formal complaints. Keep a diary and also write up all past instances with dates and times, mine now covers 35 odd pages. ACAS - google them - are very good even just to talk through your situation. They will provide you great support.

A warning though - I took my complaint higher and only got more pathetic abuse. The result is one discontented unmotivated worker. Their loss.
steven100
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by steven100 »

Phone the bullying and harassment helpline.
toastie
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

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General Mannerheim
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by General Mannerheim »

ask your union to help you to go for constructive dismissal?
Ha ha.
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
Glenno
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by Glenno »

postyrob wrote:How do I get hold of the area rep? I've no experience with unions so don't know how it works.
Are you a member of the CWU postyrob????? if not I suggest you join asap - online its quicker, if not the best advice is to .....Phone the bullying and harassment helpline its on your wage slip :wave :wave
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by POSTMAN »

How long have you been in the job Rob and what kind of contract have you got?
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
Talell
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by Talell »

Blue29 wrote:Sorry to hear your oh so typical situation. You are being bullied and victimised. Don't think you might be. From what you have said it IS happening. It is happening to many so you are not alone. That behaviour by your line manager is not acceptable, being told he would have you sacked is not acceptable in any way. Having your start times messed with is again unacceptable behaviour, although this might play to your favour as you will have systematic proof of what has been going on. RM should have policies in place to address this. As an employee you should have been informed of what to do in the case where bullying is occurring. Strangely, I haven't been informed of the procedure like you. Again this is not acceptable under UK employment law. The only way I can see you may be treated fairly is by doing as the others say and put in formal complaints. Keep a diary and also write up all past instances with dates and times, mine now covers 35 odd pages. ACAS - google them - are very good even just to talk through your situation. They will provide you great support.

A warning though - I took my complaint higher and only got more pathetic abuse. The result is one discontented unmotivated worker. Their loss.
Best advice in this situation.

Also for the more major incidents, file a grievence.

The best way to build a successful B+H case that is ruled in order is to have as much as possible in writing, and several uses of the grievence procedure to show formally this is happening.

In your diary, put as much detail as possible, date, time, location, EXACTLY what was said, people who witnessed it, people who may have witnessed it.

Your area rep should be able to talk you through the rest.

And for the outcome that you want question, don't put 'sack the F***er' like I oh so dearly wanted to.
postyrob
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

Post by postyrob »

Hi all, In answer to some of your questions, I am on a 20hr per week 3 month contract. I have been employed by the royal mail for 13 months. I've been a member of the cwu since I started. currently I am only being given 15hrs a week. I have been working 25-30hrs a week since the start of my contract so the loss in earnings is hitting me hard now. All the full timers have being telling me to put a complaint in as they can see whats going on. This line manager has his favourites and if you ain't one of them you've had it. fourtunatley, his boss i get one with as its him who has told the line manager not to sack me. I don't know whether to try and have a word with the main boss or just go through the union? I don't want to make things worse. Last night I was awake at 3am worrying about going back to work on tues. this can't go on.
General Mannerheim
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Re: deliberate attempt to get me to resign

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postyrob wrote:Hi all, In answer to some of your questions, I am on a 20hr per week 3 month contract. I have been employed by the royal mail for 13 months. I've been a member of the cwu since I started. currently I am only being given 15hrs a week. I have been working 25-30hrs a week since the start of my contract so the loss in earnings is hitting me hard now. All the full timers have being telling me to put a complaint in as they can see whats going on. This line manager has his favourites and if you ain't one of them you've had it. fourtunatley, his boss i get one with as its him who has told the line manager not to sack me. I don't know whether to try and have a word with the main boss or just go through the union? I don't want to make things worse. Last night I was awake at 3am worrying about going back to work on tues. this can't go on.
Good grief do not go through the bossImage,they all stick together when push comes to shove,use the union thats what you pay your subs for!
These arsewipes are always putting posters and making us watch shitty DVD's about stamping out bullying,funny how it doesn't apply to managers. :roll:
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.