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hatetheboss
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Going off Route

Post by hatetheboss »

A postwomen in our office got caught off route having a meal break at home What can she expect as a punishment? it is a driving duty
They are coming to take us away
Lincox
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Re: Going off Route

Post by Lincox »

She is entitled to take her meal break wherever she wants as far as I recall
bag69
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Re: Going off Route

Post by bag69 »

Your right, However they are not entitled to use RM equipment to get them there. Same happening at our place. Just got a good ticking off.
Red Robbo
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Re: Going off Route

Post by Red Robbo »

hatetheboss wrote:A postwomen in our office got caught off route having a meal break at home What can she expect as a punishment? it is a driving duty
Was her delivery risked assessed for a "toilet break" ? :oops:
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Re: Going off Route

Post by clashcityrocker »

hatetheboss wrote:A postwomen in our office got caught off route having a meal break at home What can she expect as a punishment? it is a driving duty
It would depend on many things.
Does her face fit?
Is she full-time? Are they looking to cut hours?
What is her conduct record like?
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Re: Going off Route

Post by DGP1 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
hatetheboss wrote:A postwomen in our office got caught off route having a meal break at home What can she expect as a punishment? it is a driving duty
It would depend on many things.
Does her face fit?
Is she full-time? Are they looking to cut hours?
What is her conduct record like?
She got caught so either she was really unlucky to have a manager drive past her house at the time she was there or she was being watched for this. :hmmmm
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fishtank
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Re: Going off Route

Post by fishtank »

DGP1 wrote: She got caught so either she was really unlucky to have a manager drive past her house at the time she was there or she was being watched for this. :hmmmm
Or grassed up by a colleague. :sad:
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Re: Going off Route

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fishtank wrote:
DGP1 wrote: She got caught so either she was really unlucky to have a manager drive past her house at the time she was there or she was being watched for this. :hmmmm
Or grassed up by a colleague. :sad:
Not that would be anyone like that :nervous
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Red Robbo
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Re: Going off Route

Post by Red Robbo »

hatetheboss wrote:A postwomen in our office got caught off route having a meal break at home What can she expect as a punishment? it is a driving duty
Security of the Mails , Un-authorised use of an official vehicle, off route, Gross misconduct comes to mind, could be dismissal. :nervous
jockstrapp
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Re: Going off Route

Post by jockstrapp »

Red Robbo wrote:
hatetheboss wrote:A postwomen in our office got caught off route having a meal break at home What can she expect as a punishment? it is a driving duty
Security of the Mails , Un-authorised use of an official vehicle, off route, Gross misconduct comes to mind, could be dismissal. :nervous
Rubbish. Entitled to a toilet break and if a van driver then what should she do, park it up and walk? don't think so. Don't worry no problem.
Cut Off King
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Re: Going off Route

Post by Cut Off King »

jockstrapp wrote:
Red Robbo wrote:
hatetheboss wrote:A postwomen in our office got caught off route having a meal break at home What can she expect as a punishment? it is a driving duty
Security of the Mails , Un-authorised use of an official vehicle, off route, Gross misconduct comes to mind, could be dismissal. :nervous
Rubbish. Entitled to a toilet break and if a van driver then what should she do, park it up and walk? don't think so. Don't worry no problem.
If RM fail to provide toilet & wash facilities in the "field" the your entitled to go "off route" to seek said comfort requirements, including you own abode if nessasary. If RM management challange you over this, consult with the HSA and take the matter further. Toilets & washing are a BASIC human right !

If however your were say, skiving off for a cuppa, then RM have the right to conduct you over this matter.

Excuse the pun - Don't take the Pizz, play fair and you'll have no case to answer.
Skive off , and you'll be asking for trouble

** Urination / defication in a public place is an offence, and you could be arrested / placed upon the sex offenders registar. <<< Point this out to your manager.
pokos27
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Re: Going off Route

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what is becoming to this company.
Lounge Lizard
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Re: Going off Route

Post by Lounge Lizard »

Cut Off King wrote:
jockstrapp wrote:
Red Robbo wrote:
hatetheboss wrote:A postwomen in our office got caught off route having a meal break at home What can she expect as a punishment? it is a driving duty
Security of the Mails , Un-authorised use of an official vehicle, off route, Gross misconduct comes to mind, could be dismissal. :nervous
Rubbish. Entitled to a toilet break and if a van driver then what should she do, park it up and walk? don't think so. Don't worry no problem.
If RM fail to provide toilet & wash facilities in the "field" the your entitled to go "off route" to seek said comfort requirements, including you own abode if nessasary. If RM management challange you over this, consult with the HSA and take the matter further. Toilets & washing are a BASIC human right !

If however your were say, skiving off for a cuppa, then RM have the right to conduct you over this matter.

Excuse the pun - Don't take the Pizz, play fair and you'll have no case to answer.
Skive off , and you'll be asking for trouble

** Urination / defication in a public place is an offence, and you could be arrested / placed upon the sex offenders registar. <<< Point this out to your manager.

"Urination in a public place is an offence, and you could be arrested / placed upon the sex offenders registar" - did you get that from the Daily Mail ? :shock:
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Re: Going off Route

Post by brothermagrew »

With regards to Scotland FPNs (Fixed Penalty Notices).

FPNs have been made available to Scotland's police, through provisions in the Antisocial Behaviour etc. (Scotland) Act 2004, for a range of low level offences committed by anyone aged 16 and over.

The Act sets out eight statutory and two common law offences for which an FPN can be issued: riotous behaviour while drunk in licensed premises; refusing to leave licensed premises on being requested to do so; urinating or defecating in circumstances causing annoyance to others; being drunk and incapable in a public place; being drunk in a public place in charge of a child; persisting, to annoyance of others, in playing musical instruments, singing, playing radios etc. on being required to stop; vandalism; consuming alcoholic liquor in a public place; breach of the peace; and malicious mischief.

Offenders given a FPN have up to 28 days to pay £40 or request a court hearing. If not paid within 28 days, and unchallenged, it increases to £60 and is treated as a registered fine from the district court.
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Lounge Lizard
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Re: Going off Route

Post by Lounge Lizard »

brothermagrew wrote:With regards to Scotland FPNs (Fixed Penalty Notices).

FPNs have been made available to Scotland's police, through provisions in the Antisocial Behaviour etc. (Scotland) Act 2004, for a range of low level offences committed by anyone aged 16 and over.

The Act sets out eight statutory and two common law offences for which an FPN can be issued: riotous behaviour while drunk in licensed premises; refusing to leave licensed premises on being requested to do so; urinating or defecating in circumstances causing annoyance to others; being drunk and incapable in a public place; being drunk in a public place in charge of a child; persisting, to annoyance of others, in playing musical instruments, singing, playing radios etc. on being required to stop; vandalism; consuming alcoholic liquor in a public place; breach of the peace; and malicious mischief.

Offenders given a FPN have up to 28 days to pay £40 or request a court hearing. If not paid within 28 days, and unchallenged, it increases to £60 and is treated as a registered fine from the district court.
Thanks.
"urinating or defecating in circumstances causing annoyance to others", 'causing annoyance to others' being significant and not the case if behind a hedge of a remote rural location - and a £40 FPN isn't quite as bad as being put on the sex offeners register. :crazy: