17th September start times

[shrimpster]

Hi All,

Our manager seems adamant that he is going to begin the new start times next week. Anyone know how we stand now the talks have stalled?? Can we battle anymore?

Also is anyone else's manager following through with the September 17th new start times?

Thanks for any help.

[mrlovepantsuk]

our area union rep said that is inevitable that they will be coming in whatever.

[DirtyHarry]

If your office don't want later starts, then you should all come into work at your current start time.

Remember, Royal Mail can force something on an office, only if that office is compliant.

[sadlersbitch]

All of you Turn up at your normal start time, not 15 mins early
see how your DUM handles mass action
STAND FIRM
DONT BEND OVER OR THEY WILL HAVE YOUR RINGS! :cfo :cfo

[L Tommo]

If everyone turned up bang on there normal time... IE the time now worked to... RM would love it.... But the end of the duty WE ALL CUT OFF Then RM would go balistic and chuck around papers like confeti... CWU Need to have DO's strike for the last hour of every day.... As well as MC's and RDC's and any where else.... DO's need to show the way.... I see the early starters coming just the same.... We alll need to educate ourselves and these Greyhounds and early birds .... 318..... SIMPLE!!


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[doveston]

If your office don't want later starts, then you should all come into work at your current start time.

Remember, Royal Mail can force something on an office, only if that office is compliant.

then that would mean everyone starting before their time.managmment would also turn around and say you cannot leave the office until the new time.

[DirtyHarry]

Then you say, alright but I started at my normal time, I'll be finishing at my normal time. This disobedience of unwanted, unasked for, needless
change of your conditions of work, is the only answer, just moaning and groaning about it will get you nowhere, except where they want you.

[doveston]

Then you say, alright but I started at my normal time, I'll be finishing at my normal time. This disobedience of unwanted, unasked for, needless
change of your conditions of work, is the only answer, just moaning and groaning about it will get you nowhere, except where they want you.

and managment turn aroundand say your normal working times have changed.you finish at your normal time you will be done for abandoning your duty.

[Carnoustie]

If everyone turned up bang on there normal time... IE the time now worked to... RM would love it.... But the end of the duty WE ALL CUT OFF Then RM would go balistic and chuck around papers like confeti... CWU Need to have DO's strike for the last hour of every day.... As well as MC's and RDC's and any where else.... DO's need to show the way.... I see the early starters coming just the same.... We alll need to educate ourselves and these Greyhounds and early birds .... 318..... SIMPLE!!


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No wonder you're known as the Site Nutter !

I'm confused... are you saying the early birds must come in later at the earliest opportunity, preferably later this week... and the rest of us must not start later OR earlier early next week ?? Time for me to errrr... clock off

[Carnoustie]

and managment turn aroundand say your normal working times have changed.you finish at your normal time you will be done for abandoning your duty.

Surely if they haven't given you formal written notice of a fundemental change to your employment contract, i.e change of duty times, you carry on attending at your contracted times ?? How can you be said to be abandoning your duty if you go home at your contracted time ?????

[vigilante]

and managment turn aroundand say your normal working times have changed.you finish at your normal time you will be done for abandoning your duty.

Surely if they haven't given you formal written notice of a fundemental change to your employment contract, i.e change of duty times, you carry on attending at your contracted times ?? How can you be said to be abandoning your duty if you go home at your contracted time ?????

GOOD POINT CARNOUSTIE-------------ZACKLY

[The Inspector]

and managment turn aroundand say your normal working times have changed.you finish at your normal time you will be done for abandoning your duty.

Surely if they haven't given you formal written notice of a fundemental change to your employment contract, i.e change of duty times, you carry on attending at your contracted times ?? How can you be said to be abandoning your duty if you go home at your contracted time ?????

You're bang on - matey. I cannot understand why HQ - are not stressing this. RM wanted to give prior notice - 4 weeks before & leading up to - the 17th Sep. This was deemed to be 'Excecutive Action'. No 4 weeks notice - then not 'lawful'!

[BELIAL]

The union will surely be forced to issue instructions to oppose this EA. Failure to fight such a move will be perceived by the membership as a defeat and weaken the entire dispute.
RM know this, it's all part of the plan. CWU know this too,Iguess the question is ,what response will wrongfoot RM most? Nice pr for us tho ,posties strike to protect your deliveries!

[POSTMAN]

and managment turn aroundand say your normal working times have changed.you finish at your normal time you will be done for abandoning your duty.

Surely if they haven't given you formal written notice of a fundemental change to your employment contract, i.e change of duty times, you carry on attending at your contracted times ?? How can you be said to be abandoning your duty if you go home at your contracted time ?????

You're bang on - matey. I cannot understand why HQ - are not stressing this. RM wanted to give prior notice - 4 weeks before & leading up to - the 17th Sep. This was deemed to be 'Excecutive Action'. No 4 weeks notice - then not 'lawful'!

My rep had a meeting about this today,think it was gonna go to a stage 2.
He was wondering about how they can just implement it as well,hopefully he would of got some answers today.

[L Tommo]

If everyone turned up bang on there normal time... IE the time now worked to... RM would love it.... But the end of the duty WE ALL CUT OFF Then RM would go balistic and chuck around papers like confeti... CWU Need to have DO's strike for the last hour of every day.... As well as MC's and RDC's and any where else.... DO's need to show the way.... I see the early starters coming just the same.... We alll need to educate ourselves and these Greyhounds and early birds .... 318..... SIMPLE!!


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No wonder you're known as the Site Nutter !

I'm confused... are you saying the early birds must come in later at the earliest opportunity, preferably later this week... and the rest of us must not start later OR earlier early next week ?? Time for me to errrr... clock off

Right Carnoustie DONT f***ing GET PERSONAL WITH ME !!!

Right.. Im saying if people come in on there NORMAL time... IE the time we come in now before the change..... Then RM will love it.... But the issue is at the end of the duty... After the finishing time when if doing a full day, RM will still want another hour as the later finishing times.. I understand the front of Keeping the working practise but this is for the CWU HQ to come with something enmass... Guildance... So my point is at the end when cutting off as RM will see it an hour early they will doo people for abandonment of duty or willfull delay... Papers ensue.

So IF everybody done this... Then how would RM paper everyone in your office???? Force there hand... Thats all im saying... FECK EM!!!

If HQ dont come up with a solution to this farce then direct action is needed... If anyone who doesnt agree with me im all ears how to combat RM and the later starts.... As for personal shite.... IF CARNOUSTIE was face to face i would like him to say it then... Not hide behind a fecking screen... CYBER TWAT... Ive never been personal witha postie as its not my way... SLAGGING RM AND SCREWS Is my point... Not in fighting!!
Oh apart from Margie as he was a loon....
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