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SDD Saturday Agreements for MAILSORT 3

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SDD Saturday Agreements for MAILSORT 3

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:so there I know this issue has been brought up a few times before, but, in our office last saturday, our manager made the staff sort it, just because we were standing around for a bit waiting for our second lot of mail.

Has anyone got a copy of the SDD agreement regarding MAILSORT 3 ?

and

Could anyone also clarify what our position is regarding this mail ?

If anyone can supply me with these details i'd really appreciate it, and will definately be putting them up on the noticeboard in our office.

Thanks. :cfo :lfo
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Post by wakkono »

we have to sort it in wales on a sat morning if there is no live mail but the mail has beeen coming up so late on the first wave that for the last few months we aint had time to sort it normally its just cut and tipped and left till mon morning
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Re: SDD Saturday Agreements for MAILSORT 3

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Cybitech wrote::so there I know this issue has been brought up a few times before, but, in our office last saturday, our manager made the staff sort it, just because we were standing around for a bit waiting for our second lot of mail.

Has anyone got a copy of the SDD agreement regarding MAILSORT 3 ?

and

Could anyone also clarify what our position is regarding this mail ?

If anyone can supply me with these details i'd really appreciate it, and will definately be putting them up on the noticeboard in our office.

Thanks. :cfo :lfo
In asking you to work, what exactly did your manager do wrong?
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Re: SDD Saturday Agreements for MAILSORT 3

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DOM wrote:
Cybitech wrote::so there I know this issue has been brought up a few times before, but, in our office last saturday, our manager made the staff sort it, just because we were standing around for a bit waiting for our second lot of mail.

Has anyone got a copy of the SDD agreement regarding MAILSORT 3 ?

and

Could anyone also clarify what our position is regarding this mail ?

If anyone can supply me with these details i'd really appreciate it, and will definately be putting them up on the noticeboard in our office.

Thanks. :cfo :lfo
In asking you to work, what exactly did your manager do wrong?
In asking the question where does it say that asking them to work was wrong. He just wants clarification.
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What i'm saying is, in his own words he was "standing around", so been asked do some sorting in not unreasonable. Delivering it may be different.
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Re: SDD Saturday Agreements for MAILSORT 3

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Cybitech wrote::so there I know this issue has been brought up a few times before, but, in our office last saturday, our manager made the staff sort it, just because we were standing around for a bit waiting for our second lot of mail.

Has anyone got a copy of the SDD agreement regarding MAILSORT 3 ?

and

Could anyone also clarify what our position is regarding this mail ?

If anyone can supply me with these details i'd really appreciate it, and will definately be putting them up on the noticeboard in our office.

Thanks. :cfo :lfo

IT STATES IN THE SDD THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE LONG DAYS AND SHORT DAYS IN THE WEEK TO TAKE IN CONSIDERATION THE HEAVIER DAYS??(IE BEING FLEXIBLE) THUS SAT SHOULD BE MADE A SHORTER DAY
THUS NOT TAKING M3.
IT CAN BE SORTED IF THERE IS TIME WHEN LIVE MAIL IS NOT PRESENT.
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Re: SDD Saturday Agreements for MAILSORT 3

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Cybitech wrote::so there I know this issue has been brought up a few times before, but, in our office last saturday, our manager made the staff sort it, just because we were standing around for a bit waiting for our second lot of mail.

Has anyone got a copy of the SDD agreement regarding MAILSORT 3 ?

and

Could anyone also clarify what our position is regarding this mail ?

If anyone can supply me with these details i'd really appreciate it, and will definately be putting them up on the noticeboard in our office.

Thanks. :cfo :lfo
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DOM wrote:What i'm saying is, in his own words he was "standing around", so been asked do some sorting in not unreasonable. Delivering it may be different.
So, he was standing around? It's only what you shower do for most of the day when you're not scabbing or spending the bonus we've earned for you.
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Post by robd »

The problem is a lot has changed since SDD.
By this i mean Saturday has been targeted for Delivery of downstream access.
Part of the SDD agreement states mailsort3 is not required for delivery to allow for a significantly shorter saturday.
However there's nothing wrong with your manager loading ips and requesting it's sorted to your fitting.
if you decide to deliver it,i think it should be a matter for each individual,but why make work for yourself!
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robd wrote:The problem is a lot has changed since SDD.
By this i mean Saturday has been targeted for Delivery of downstream access.
Part of the SDD agreement states mailsort3 is not required for delivery to allow for a significantly shorter saturday.
However there's nothing wrong with your manager loading ips and requesting it's sorted to your fitting.
if you decide to deliver it,i think it should be a matter for each individual,but why make work for yourself!
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DOM wrote:What i'm saying is, in his own words he was "standing around", so been asked do some sorting in not unreasonable. Delivering it may be different.
Instead of just going to selected threads/posts how about going to some that are about say,Management bullying or say,stitch up sick stage warnings or say,my Manager lied to me today or.......
Actually,just post in most of the threads.

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POSTMAN wrote:We will give you a little respect if you give us the same.
I won't mate! They show how much respect they have for us every time they issue another stage to someone with a fistful of doctors notes or drive through a picket line. You might as well ask me to respect Thatcher or Nick Griffin.
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Re: SDD Saturday Agreements for MAILSORT 3

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DOM wrote:
Cybitech wrote::so there I know this issue has been brought up a few times before, but, in our office last saturday, our manager made the staff sort it, just because we were standing around for a bit waiting for our second lot of mail.

Has anyone got a copy of the SDD agreement regarding MAILSORT 3 ?

and

Could anyone also clarify what our position is regarding this mail ?

If anyone can supply me with these details i'd really appreciate it, and will definately be putting them up on the noticeboard in our office.

Thanks. :cfo :lfo
In asking you to work, what exactly did your manager do wrong?
Are they letting managers post on this forum now?
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Actually anybody can. DOM posts a fair bit but does not seem to contribute much to the discussions.
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Post by Wild Cat »

I think it is important that we keep the forum DOM free as I really can see it going hellmail if we are not careful.

This is an excellent forum and I think it would be a good idea to set up an alternative points of view section so they can post there but to let them post on the main forum before you know it this will become a DOM forum and I for one will not come on here any longer if that happens.