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Wessex
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Post by Wessex »

My wife's mother is seriously ill , she lives abroad.If she passes away I would be expected to attend her funeral service as well. ,Does anyone know how Royal Mail will view this.I would need to fly to Europe .

Thanks for any advice or comments .
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By the book you will get the funeral as paid special leave and the rest will be unpaid or annual leave.
If you have a decent manager you may get the whole lot as paid.
When my wife's mother passed away my manager gave me a full week,no questions asked,he even said take as long as you need but that was 10 years ago and things are different now. :sad:
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For a more distant relative e.g. parent in law, grandparent, aunt, uncle- one day with pay.
Discretion for additional time off in exceptional circumstances where care of a dependant is involved, however where prolonged time off is required this might be without pay or from holiday entitlement
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Post by Wessex »

Thanks for the replies :Applause

When my father died I received special leave but when my uncle who was the last of my dad's many brothers and sisters passed away they wouldnt let me go and I can tell you I was mightily upset that I couldn't attend his service.So it seems that it is at the manager's discretion and at thast time they must have been stretched.Ordinarily I would have said fu I am going but past battles with management meant that I was unsure of my ground and I think I may have been near to a stage 3 at the time.

I agree RM has changed and our decent managers probably have less discretionary options than they previously had which is a great shame.
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a bloke had compassionate leave under the circumstances and he wasnt even married
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Post by clewsy01 »

i too would like a pretty good answer as my wife is in and out of hospital and i have to take my days as unpaid leave as the manager claims there is no special leave anymore!! i hope the OP get the time needed if poss but it seems different managers do different things
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Post by midegarelu »

By the book you will get the funeral as paid special leave and the rest will be unpaid or annual leave.
For a more distant relative e.g. parent in law, grandparent, aunt, uncle- one day with pay.
Discretion for additional time off in exceptional circumstances where care of a dependant is involved, however where prolonged time off is required this might be without pay or from holiday entitlement]

From recent memory the rules state that you are entitled to 5 days paid leave if you are arranging the Funeral. I am pretty certain that the criteria is printed on the Special Leave form. However as previously stated whilst a decent Manager would happily go along with this, unfortunately we are lumbered with the worst Managers in the world bar none!
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midegarelu wrote: From recent memory the rules state that you are entitled to 5 days paid leave if you are arranging the Funeral. I am pretty certain that the criteria is printed on the Special Leave form.
If arranging a funeral up to one week with pay, which includes the bereavement, arranging the funeral and any other duties (This is for arranging funerals of next of kin or as an executor).
For the death of next of kin and blood relative, (spouse, civil partner, long standing unmarried relationship, child, parent, sibling) up to one week with pay (No additional week is allowed if the person is arranging the funeral).
For a more distant relative e.g. parent in law, grandparent, aunt, uncle- one day with pay.
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Again thanks for all comments , my situation is complicated because to attend the funeral would require a minimum of three days , two days for travel and one for the funeral and that excludes possible cultural obligations which might mean more than one days attendance for the service
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Post by Wessex »

This situation must have happened many times to other posties re having to go abroad particularly because posties often have family all over the world these days, it must be an impossible situation if cultural reasons demand the funeral within 24 hours and you have to try and get there.
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So it seems that it is at the manager's discretion
It isn't,it's in the agreement (re:close relative)as Clash posted.
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