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Accident on duty/Injury on duty

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leelatic
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Accident on duty/Injury on duty

Post by leelatic »

A woman at our office is up for a stage warning.When she was out delivering her back went,stupidly she came back to work after about 4 days and it went again.As far as I know she signed the accident book.The Dom has told her that she will get a stage warning because its an injury not an accident.I would have thought that your back going while your out delivering 7 or 8 bags is work related.Is it right that a warning should be given in this case?
Sick warnings in our office are a joke they're virtually automatic but I guess thats the case everywhere.
madelin4
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Re: Accident on duty/Injury on duty

Post by madelin4 »

leelatic wrote:A woman at our office is up for a stage warning.When she was out delivering her back went,stupidly she came back to work after about 4 days and it went again.As far as I know she signed the accident book.The Dom has told her that she will get a stage warning because its an injury not an accident.I would have thought that your back going while your out delivering 7 or 8 bags is work related.Is it right that a warning should be given in this case?
Sick warnings in our office are a joke they're virtually automatic but I guess thats the case everywhere.
Yes , i think its the same all over mate, a guy at my office was out with a kidney stone, in hospital, took him to a stage 3 a 2nd time and he got the sack!! he even lost his appeal!! if i was your friend i wudnt have been back so soon.. :d'oh!
gazzer
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Post by gazzer »

Absolutely pathetic that RM can get away with this shi-,surely if you have a doctors line(as I've seen on previous posts)they can't sack you!!!! It's time something was done about this way of treating staff!!!!

Has anyone taken Legal Aid or gone to Citizens Advice? :cfo :lfo
AndyK
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Post by AndyK »

Injury or accident if it was on duty it should not count, the only reason not to disscount accident/injury is if the dum can prove that the employee did something that was not following health and safety i.e carrying over weight bags or running on their duty etc. but like people say they'll say out the bastards to get rid off somene.
Stormproof
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Post by Stormproof »

I was issued a Stage 2 after returning to work. because of Stress, due to a managers bullying & harrassment (a case RM upheld in my favour). They don't give a s**t, they would love to get all us full timers sacked so we can be replaced by part time staff.
So keep on moving, moving, moving your feet
Keep on shuf-shuf-shuffling to this ghost dance beat
Just keep on walking down never ending streets


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leelatic
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Post by leelatic »

gazzer wrote:Absolutely pathetic that RM can get away with this shi-,surely if you have a doctors line(as I've seen on previous posts)they can't sack you!!!! It's time something was done about this way of treating staff!!!!

Has anyone taken Legal Aid or gone to Citizens Advice? :cfo :lfo
I think its about time the union challenged the sick system at royal mai, its a disgrace the way its being enforced.Our area manager told me only 60% get issued-what a load of bollocks that is eh?
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leelatic

Post by vigilante »

leelatic wrote:
gazzer wrote:Absolutely pathetic that RM can get away with this shi-,surely if you have a doctors line(as I've seen on previous posts)they can't sack you!!!! It's time something was done about this way of treating staff!!!!

Has anyone taken Legal Aid or gone to Citizens Advice? :cfo :lfo
I think its about time the union challenged the sick system at royal mai, its a disgrace the way its being enforced.Our area manager told me only 60% get issued-what a load of bollocks that is eh?

All stages are triggered automatically from main offices.
There is no managers discretion anymore!!
They are using any s****y tactic to get rid of people, conduct or sick-----it's pathetic and desperate.
one of our blokes was issued stage 2 for HAVING A HEART ATTACK AT WORK!!!!!-----how caring :mad
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Post by POSTMAN »

I've posted in another thread that DIM's got an e-mail telling them that the % of stages issued weren't high enough and they had to issue more!!!!
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
piranha
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Re: leelatic

Post by piranha »

cornishrep wrote: They are using any s****y tactic to get rid of people, conduct or sick-----it's pathetic and desperate.
one of our blokes was issued stage 2 for HAVING A HEART ATTACK AT WORK!!!!!-----how caring :mad
That is disgraceful :cfo
phantomshare
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Post by phantomshare »

Line managers are not allowed to follow the guide lines set out in the attendance agreement, they are being pressurised from above to issue stage warnings regardless of the circumstances. as i've said before try and link absences to accidents on duty at least then you have a fighting chance. i'm sorry but if they don't play by the rules why should we!
councillor
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warnings

Post by councillor »

If you get a stage warning, DO NOT GO IN ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I made that mistake, and got the sack on a stage 3, that was back in May. Luckily, I won my appeal, 'cos my union guy was on the ball, and I'm back in work next week, but DON'T GO IN ALONE!!!!!!!!!!
DirtyHarry
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Post by DirtyHarry »

Charming company we slave for, 'aint it ? :shock:

Seriously though, I think it's high time the CWU brought it's legal eagles to scrutinise Royal Fail's underhand tactics. I sometimes have to check the
date on my calendar to make sure it's 2007 and not 1887.

And they have the nerve to call trade unionists, Dinosaurs. :shock: :crazy: It was people like Leighton & Crozier who ran the "Dark, Satanic, mills",
of the 18th and 19th centuries, they posess the same attitudes. They should be crushed. :mad
piranha
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Re: warnings

Post by piranha »

councillor wrote:If you get a stage warning, DO NOT GO IN ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I made that mistake, and got the sack on a stage 3, that was back in May. Luckily, I won my appeal, 'cos my union guy was on the ball, and I'm back in work next week, but DON'T GO IN ALONE!!!!!!!!!!
Got that right :wink:
Ive survived a stage 3 thanks to my union rep
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TOO TRUE

Post by vigilante »

DirtyHarry wrote:Charming company we slave for, 'aint it ? :shock:

Seriously though, I think it's high time the CWU brought it's legal eagles to scrutinise Royal Fail's underhand tactics. I sometimes have to check the
date on my calendar to make sure it's 2007 and not 1887.

And they have the nerve to call trade unionists, Dinosaurs. :shock: :crazy: It was people like Leighton & Crozier who ran the "Dark, Satanic, mills",
of the 18th and 19th centuries, they posess the same attitudes. They should be crushed. :mad

AND WE'RE HEADING BACK THERE FAST IN THIS COUNTRY!!