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Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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clewsy01
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Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

Post by clewsy01 »

Hi, as some will now on here from previous posts my job is a hybrid delivery 10 - 6pm with time between 3pm and 6pm used a packets. Our job is basically a safe guard to prevent failure or packets. Anyway since our CSS have come online these past two weeks have been nightmares with myself and another hybrid "having" ( i use the term loosely) to take out extra delivery instead of packets. We are told that this is because all overtime options were exhausted as other staff did not want to extend past 3 o clock.

Yesterday I ended up doing 2 full deliveries, I was unable to ask our rep in our office as we don't have one at the moment and one area rep was on holiday and the other unavailable. After doing the 2 deliveries I was 10 mins over my time. Still good going so this morning i asked the manager if he wanted me to claim or to just finish 10 mins early today to save putting it in the system, after all royal mail say they want a flexibility to the job!

He responded by saying that if i claim the 10 mins or finish early then he expects me to work to my time everyday, as apparently he has heard that hybrid staff are finishing early and not doing as many packets as they could ( i discussed this in a previous thread) I told him that I always work to my time which is 6pm weekdays and 4pm saturdays, and he said he has heard different and that on tuesdays we are finished so early. This is rubbish as for the past three weeks esp the last two we have failed everyday due to failed mail. When I asked what he had heard he just said conflicting stories!. So the fact is he does not trust myself and others to work unsupervised to our time, and he threatened to come back and see what time we get finished and give us all separate alarm numbers so he can monitor the time the office is locked., The worse point is one hybrid in particular has finished early three times by over 1hr 30mins due to commitments and he had never had to make this time up.

It seems to me like one rule for one and one for another.

What would be the best way to approach this, refuse extra mail until confirmed by the union? a grievance against him? reporting it to the dsm?

Its annoying as they as for flexiblity and a willingness to get the job done, and when you do it this is what you get!! :arrrghhh

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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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So the fact is he does not trust myself and others to work unsupervised to our time, and he threatened to come back and see what time we get finished and give us all separate alarm numbers so he can monitor the time the office is locked
Call his bluff...you have nothing to hide.
Watch him crawl back under his rock. :whistle
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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Yesterday I ended up doing 2 full deliveries
That has to be a no no surely!
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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POSTMAN wrote:
Yesterday I ended up doing 2 full deliveries
That has to be a no no surely!
Yeah it's called Park and Loop :roll:
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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"Yesterday I ended up doing 2 full deliveries, ....... After doing the 2 deliveries I was 10 mins over my time." - so each delivery takes just a few minutes over HALF the alloted time ? :shock:
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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Lounge Lizard wrote:"Yesterday I ended up doing 2 full deliveries, ....... After doing the 2 deliveries I was 10 mins over my time." - so each delivery takes just a few minutes over HALF the alloted time ? :shock:
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I'm assuming somebody else did his collection LL.....
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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so each delivery takes just a few minutes over HALF the alloted time ? :shock:
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It was a good 6 and a half hour walk, did my last letter at 6.10pm. Had my break in between deliveries.

POSTMAN wrote:
Yesterday I ended up doing 2 full deliveries
That has to be a no no surely!
the dims said that all the Overtimes options were exhausted, and that i was the only one left and as i was paid till 6 the mail took priority over anything else. similar happened to the other hybrid, he had his delivery and half another

really gonna try to get in touch with the area rep on Monday, as i am sure that if all OT options were "exhausted" it should have been the management to take it out and not the hybrids as doing this mail contradicts the purpose of the hybrid
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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Who did your collection if all overtime options were exhausted?
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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fishtank wrote:Who did your collection if all overtime options were exhausted?
im a hybrid packet driver. the packets were failed and not taken
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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clewsy01 wrote:
fishtank wrote:Who did your collection if all overtime options were exhausted?
im a hybrid packet driver. the packets were failed and not taken
Got you.
So...they failed your duty to get another one done.
Genius. :roll:
Speak to your rep,your duty isn't general dogsbody...it's delivery/packets...not delivery/delivery/whatever the manager can't get covered.
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

Post by demon »

i would claim the ten mins overetime f**k them
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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I'd do as FT suggested - call his bluff, you know that you don't finish early, you know to do the job properly, so you've no worries. It always come back to bite DOMs in the ass as YOU control what time you return. If he's in the office when you get back, good - he was the one who had to come back into the office and not get paid :Very Happy
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Re: Manager moaning about 10 mins overtime!!

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Lounge Lizard wrote:"Yesterday I ended up doing 2 full deliveries, ....... After doing the 2 deliveries I was 10 mins over my time." - so each delivery takes just a few minutes over HALF the alloted time ? :shock:
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