My question is: Can I refuse to put a bag on my shoulder now that Park and Loop is in.
Reason for the question is that using the golf trolleys take longer and means going over the duty time the next step I feel will be the manager saying do not use the trolley and revert back to bag on shoulder ......... please could any rep advise.
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gb93
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I would not outright refuse at first.
I would simply ask the manager to put his request in writing with the reasons why.
And see what happens from there
I would simply ask the manager to put his request in writing with the reasons why.
And see what happens from there
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fishtank
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Phase 5 http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... =0#p289215" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Implementation of the revision, there will probably be a planned date for the implementation of the revision however, it is essential that this is agreed with you, and it is “do-able”. Prior to implementation of a revision, reps must ensure that the revision is compliant to all health and safety standards and signed off / confirmed as such by the WSR/ASR and that all equipment for the revision such as trolley’s, vans will be in place for the commencement of the revision. All training requirements should also be in place prior to the revision going “live” and that everyone is aware that all equipment aligned to the delivery must be used.
Do you need any more ammunition?Business Transformation 2010 and Beyond....page 23
The introduction of new delivery methods equipment will follow the agreed delivery revisions process and will need to take account of D2D.
Once assigned the use of equipment specified for the route will be mandatory.
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walkthewalk
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Brilliant answers especially the document, just what I wanted thank you 
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worktotime
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you are within your rights if your duty is to use a lwt down to h&s but we started p&l in nov and with all the bad weather they just left you to do what you want carrying bags as long as it went put the door , but now the weathers better and not as heavy you are being followed to see if they can catch people not useing the lwt , my arguement with him was you didnt bother in the bad weather and i constantly ask why cant they just say nobody can carry bags then why was the new pouches made with shoulder straps on and he still wont answer the question. or is it 1 rule for summer (lwt) and 1 rule for bad weather (carry bags) .walkthewalk wrote:My question is: Can I refuse to put a bag on my shoulder now that Park and Loop is in.
Reason for the question is that using the golf trolleys take longer and means going over the duty time the next step I feel will be the manager saying do not use the trolley and revert back to bag on shoulder ......... please could any rep advise.
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walkthewalk
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Interesting senario but I will be doing as the document states, using a trolley takes a lot longer and better for your health.worktotime wrote:you are within your rights if your duty is to use a lwt down to h&s but we started p&l in nov and with all the bad weather they just left you to do what you want carrying bags as long as it went put the door , but now the weathers better and not as heavy you are being followed to see if they can catch people not useing the lwt , my arguement with him was you didnt bother in the bad weather and i constantly ask why cant they just say nobody can carry bags then why was the new pouches made with shoulder straps on and he still wont answer the question. or is it 1 rule for summer (lwt) and 1 rule for bad weather (carry bags) .walkthewalk wrote:My question is: Can I refuse to put a bag on my shoulder now that Park and Loop is in.
Reason for the question is that using the golf trolleys take longer and means going over the duty time the next step I feel will be the manager saying do not use the trolley and revert back to bag on shoulder ......... please could any rep advise.
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Judgee
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When my DIM asked why my round could not be completed on time, one of the reasons I gave hime was the use of trolleys. He then said well why don't I go back to using a bag on the shoulder?" Cos it's not how this new system that you brought in works" I replied.... he skulked off and hasn't mentioned it since.
You have to bear in mind this is thier idea, if it doesn't work tough s**t they got what they wanted so make them deal with the consequences!
You have to bear in mind this is thier idea, if it doesn't work tough s**t they got what they wanted so make them deal with the consequences!
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
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Lovemoney
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Judgee wrote:When my DIM asked why my round could not be completed on time, one of the reasons I gave hime was the use of trolleys. He then said well why don't I go back to using a bag on the shoulder?" Cos it's not how this new system that you brought in works" I replied.... he skulked off and hasn't mentioned it since.
You have to bear in mind this is thier idea, if it doesn't work tough s**t they got what they wanted so make them deal with the consequences!
WELL DONE
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walkthewalk
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We are due to start P+L soon so any useful and offical feedback to throw at the managers are more than welcome. You said it was their idea, I did not know they got paid for thinking up ideasJudgee wrote:When my DIM asked why my round could not be completed on time, one of the reasons I gave hime was the use of trolleys. He then said well why don't I go back to using a bag on the shoulder?" Cos it's not how this new system that you brought in works" I replied.... he skulked off and hasn't mentioned it since.
You have to bear in mind this is thier idea, if it doesn't work tough s**t they got what they wanted so make them deal with the consequences!