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Re joining union after scabbing

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First off, I post on this board under a different name but due to the nature of the post i needed to change it for this one.

In my office i have heard that a known scab has applied to re join the union because he has had a few scrapes of late and the manager's are not as friendly as they were and they are not backing him as much as they used to.

Under union rule's can he re join?
Is there anything we can do if he does re join? (apart from leave the union)

Why do scum like this think they can have there cake and eat it

c***!!!!!!!!
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Re: Re joining union after scabbing

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incogneeeto wrote:First off, I post on this board under a different name but due to the nature of the post i needed to change it for this one.

In my office i have heard that a known scab has applied to re join the union because he has had a few scrapes of late and the manager's are not as friendly as they were and they are not backing him as much as they used to.

Under union rule's can he re join?
Is there anything we can do if he does re join? (apart from leave the union)

Why do scum like this think they can have there cake and eat it

c***!!!!!!!!
unfortunatley they'll take any one back in my experiance, but you and i know what they are about, and hopefully the rep will give them the representation they deserve.
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Oh that is s**t
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Re: Re joining union after scabbing

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incogneeeto wrote:Oh that is s**t
life's like that
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Re: Re joining union after scabbing

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i thought they had to pay any shortfall, meaning they had to pay up to date any time they had missed in the union, i.e if they had been out of union 6 months then they would have to pay 6 months back subs not sure if this is right or not.
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alhothi wrote:i thought they had to pay any shortfall, meaning they had to pay up to date any time they had missed in the union, i.e if they had been out of union 6 months then they would have to pay 6 months back subs not sure if this is right or not.
lets hope so. i have experiance of strike breakers who come back as soon as they have problems, but as i don't speak to them i don't know if they pay back subs
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Depends on how they rejoin i guess.
If it's done online then it will go through i guess,if it's done through the branch then it is possible for the branch to just tear the application up.I have seen that done before.
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Re: Re joining union after scabbing

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To rejoin the union you must complete a form and hand it in at your local branch. You cannot rejoin online or by phone! :wink:
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
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Judgee wrote:To rejoin the union you must complete a form and hand it in at your local branch. You cannot rejoin online or by phone! :wink:
Result. :wink:
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incogneeeto wrote:First off, I post on this board under a different name but due to the nature of the post i needed to change it for this one.

In my office i have heard that a known scab has applied to re join the union because he has had a few scrapes of late and the manager's are not as friendly as they were and they are not backing him as much as they used to.

Under union rule's can he re join?
Yes he cant be excluded from joining just because he did not support a strike: :sad: :sad:
incogneeeto wrote:Is there anything we can do if he does re join? (apart from leave the union)
No http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... /DG_179200" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Exclusion and expulsion for a conduct reason

A trade union can exclude or expel you for conduct that it finds unacceptable. In particular this applies where:

you have previously been expelled from the trade union
you are a member of a political party whose aims and objectives conflict with those of your trade union, or your trade union’s rules forbid membership of that political party

But a trade union may not exclude or expel you for the following conduct:

being a member of another trade union
no longer being a member of another trade union
having a job with a particular employer or at a particular place
no longer having a job with a particular employer or at a particular place
conduct for which discipline is 'unjustifiable discipline'

However, any decision to exclude or expel you from a trade union must be taken in-line with the trade union’s rules.
Unjustifiable discipline

There are certain actions that your trade union must not discipline you for. If it does, the discipline will automatically be unjustifiable and you will be able to make a complaint to an Employment Tribunal. The actions are outlined below.
Strikes and other industrial action

A trade union must not discipline you for:

going to work despite a call to take strike or other industrial action
crossing a picket line during a strike
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Re: Re joining union after scabbing

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There was a guy in the office where my OH and I used to work....he scabbed every strike!

He's now CWU rep :crazy:
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He 'could' be disciplined,rule 14?
1. A member shall be liable to disciplinary action in respect of the following:

a) Acting in breach of the Rules of the Union;

b) Behaving in a manner contrary to the interests of the Union;

c) Failing to carry out lawful and reasonable instructions of a Branch, the NEC, Annual or Special Conference;
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It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: Re joining union after scabbing

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you are a member of a political party whose aims and objectives conflict with those of your trade union
So you are screwed if you are a Lib Dem , Tory or Labour Party member then :Very Happy
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Take his money & represent him in the manner he deserves !!
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Re: Re joining union after scabbing

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Unless you engage with your non-members (whether they scabbed or not) how do you hope to get them to join the union?
Are the CWU members who are guilty of starting early, using a car, carrying overweight bags etc to be forgiven?

And if you represent someone you should do it to the best of your ability, not according to some sliding scale of how "good" a CWU member they are.
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