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Up Hill Down Hill
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D2D agreements/Lapsing...

Post by Up Hill Down Hill »

2 questions...

Why are D2D's not coming together as agreed? We have no time to prep them

What is the lapsing agreement? We are doing it already due to being short staffed, Is this allowed?

My reply was: Work as instructed by line manager :d'oh!

Surely this working condition means anything can be forced upon us?
mr deeds
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Re: D2D agreements/Lapsing...

Post by mr deeds »

just work to your time...then fu*k em they want the company to run on a shoestring and when things go wrong it's all our fault "bunch of work shy f*cks" they say my (doms) bonus depends on you!

just do what they say "as directed" do your hours and leave the rest simple
skull
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Re: D2D agreements/Lapsing...

Post by skull »

mr deeds wrote:just work to your time...then fu*k em they want the company to run on a shoestring and when things go wrong it's all our fault "bunch of work shy f*cks" they say my (doms) bonus depends on you!

just do what they say "as directed" do your hours and leave the rest simple

Totally agree , posties need to start detaching themselves from how RM is being run . I feel the CWU are getting some unfair critism on this forum , they don't have any responsibilty on how RM is being run . All the CWU can do is advise their members to take their brakes , work to the time they want to and use the equipment provided ( eg trolleys ) . Rm have the right to ask their employees to work the hours they are paid for , after that f**k the d*ck heads , it's their mess let them sort it .
spoodoo
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Re: D2D agreements/Lapsing...

Post by spoodoo »

totally agree my d t door s have failed a few times now as i will not come in early or takem home to prep, do my hours that it,everyone should!
TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: D2D agreements/Lapsing...

Post by TrueBlueTerrier »

Up Hill Down Hill wrote:2 questions...

why are D2D's not coming together as agreed? We have no time to prep them
I have checked the agreement and there is no mention of automation of D2Ds - IIRC it was something mentioned after and it had the usual clauses of financial and commerical viability. So I guess that probably means never.
Up Hill Down Hill wrote:What is the lapsing agreement? We are doing it already due to being short staffed, Is this allowed?
The lapsing agreement comes under the P&M07 agreement http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... on#p124935" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and yes it is allowed - we are caught under the efficient staffing and working your paid hours parts of the P&M07 agreement.
Up Hill Down Hill wrote:My reply was: Work as instructed by line manager :d'oh!
Well not anything, it has to a be a reasonable request, not B&H, fair and you have to be trained on the tasks and in line with extant agreements and acts of parliemant as appropriate. Bu basically Yes.
Up Hill Down Hill wrote:Surely this working condition means anything can be forced upon us?
As long as its Within your contract etc - Yes
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