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Post by taffy45 »

can anybody on here get me the procedures for the use of a HCT
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Tr oll eys
Before the introduction of a trolley on a delivery walk, a ‘terrain assessment’ must be
carried out as part of the walk risk assessment process to ensure that the terrain is suitable
in particular for High Capacity Trolley (HCT) use. The correct lifting and handling techniques
must be used and they must not be overloaded. The Safe Systems of Work for Trolleys must
be followed at all times. The local walk risk assessment must be completed including
consultations with security and the local authority before deployment. The HCT is intended
to be used on level or undulating surfaces where small inclines do not cause any additional
force to be exerted. Use of HCTs in all circumstances will in any case be subject to local risk
and safety assessments undertaken by the manager in consultation with the local Safety
Representative. If accelerating HCT’s then they must be loaded/unloaded either using a
vehicle with a tail lift or via the approved ramp following the Safe System of Work (SSOW)
for HCT ramps. The weights below are maximum subject to a local terrain assessment.
These are the only trolleys currently authorised for use:
• Three pannier trolley (being phased out), max load 54 kg and Max,
gross weight is 80kg with 18kg per pannier

• Lightweight golf trolley – max load 32 kg and max gross weight is 38.6kg
with 16kg per pannier
• High Capacity Trolley – on flat/undulating terrain the max load is 70kg and the Max gross
weight 105kg. On steep terrain the max load is 40kg and Max gross weight 75kg. When
using a HCT you must load the front section with light/bulky items and mail to be delivered
first. The rear section should be loaded with most of the bundles of mail. When approaching
steep hills, ensure that only the rear section is loaded with letter mail in order to restrict the
load to below 40kg.
Your Delivery Trolley should be in good condition - if not report defective or faulty
equipment immediately.

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Re: HCT

Post by taffy45 »

thanks terrier but the thingis in our office the hcts are being used as bag drops with mail left in them unattened for hours can you give me the prodedures for the times they are to be left unattened
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Re: HCT

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taffy45 wrote:thanks terrier but the thingis in our office the hcts are being used as bag drops with mail left in them unattened for hours can you give me the prodedures for the times they are to be left unattened
I think it's 10 minutes maximum, the area needs to be risk assessed before hand.
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Re: HCT

Post by robd »

I have a copy of the procedure as i use a HCT myself,the LTB no. is 920/07 (15th Oct 2007)
i tried to pull up a copy from the CWU website for you,but it doesn't appear to go back that far,you
may be able to get a copy from your branch though.
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Re: HCT

Post by Lincox »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Tr oll eys
Before the introduction of a trolley on a delivery walk, a ‘terrain assessment’ must be
carried out as part of the walk risk assessment process to ensure that the terrain is suitable
in particular for High Capacity Trolley (HCT) use. The correct lifting and handling techniques
must be used and they must not be overloaded. The Safe Systems of Work for Trolleys must
be followed at all times. The local walk risk assessment must be completed including
consultations with security and the local authority before deployment. The HCT is intended
to be used on level or undulating surfaces where small inclines do not cause any additional
force to be exerted. Use of HCTs in all circumstances will in any case be subject to local risk
and safety assessments undertaken by the manager in consultation with the local Safety
Representative. If accelerating HCT’s then they must be loaded/unloaded either using a
vehicle with a tail lift or via the approved ramp following the Safe System of Work (SSOW)
for HCT ramps. The weights below are maximum subject to a local terrain assessment.
These are the only trolleys currently authorised for use:
• Three pannier trolley (being phased out), max load 54 kg and Max,
gross weight is 80kg with 18kg per pannier

• Lightweight golf trolley – max load 32 kg and max gross weight is 38.6kg
with 16kg per pannier
• High Capacity Trolley – on flat/undulating terrain the max load is 70kg and the Max gross
weight 105kg. On steep terrain the max load is 40kg and Max gross weight 75kg. When
using a HCT you must load the front section with light/bulky items and mail to be delivered
first. The rear section should be loaded with most of the bundles of mail. When approaching
steep hills, ensure that only the rear section is loaded with letter mail in order to restrict the
load to below 40kg.
Your Delivery Trolley should be in good condition - if not report defective or faulty
equipment immediately.

from the Lighten the load booklet http://www.cwu.org/uploads/documents/HS ... e-Reps.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The rules say that an HCT is intended to be used on flat and undulating surfaces where small inclines do not cause any extra force to be exerted.
Then there are rules for it,s use on steep terrain.
So what is it intended to be used on, the flat and undulating surfaces with small inclines, or absolutley any type of terrain?
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Re: HCT

Post by Kpostbun »

I use an HCT . Because i have just one incline (bridge) to cross on way out i do not load it to maximum weight and use last bag drop still for one or two bags. Dom told me that there are motorised HCTs for walks on inclines. Full walk wouldnt fit in hct on heavy days anyway due to packets. We are only meant to leave them unattended for 8-10 mins. I get round this by saying i can see it every 5 - 10 mins while doing blocks of flats and move it every 30-40 mins. which has been approved. They are meant to help us with load bearing the bike locks provided with them are not suitable security wise to leave them for long spells. They are not using them correctly if they are allowing them to sit there. If mine got nicked i would know within 10 mins timescale when it went. cover yourself
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Post by brothermagrew »

taffy45 wrote:thanks terrier but the thingis in our office the hcts are being used as bag drops with mail left in them unattened for hours can you give me the prodedures for the times they are to be left unattened

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Re: HCT

Post by jessicarabbit »

Let me get this right according to the cwuNE thing if you have one of these new 2 bag trolleys and one of your first calls takes you more tnan 15m away from your trolley you must take all mail with you to delivery point. Thereby forcing you to carry 2 bags at a time :no no and 32KGs :no no :no no . Any thoughts....
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Re: HCT

Post by robd »

Actually,it's not as clear cut as it reads,i've been stopped by IB in the past(out on patrol)who were happy that i
had all Registered's on my person,the trolley was secured,and i had left it in a highly visible place to loop back to
it.
Even if you exceed the recommended time limit,the benefit to the business of using a trolley far outweighs the
risk,equally because of weight issues on delivery,it's extremely unlikely your rep would argue the case not to use it.
I suppose you have to appreciate the irony,that when i deliver to blocks of flats,i have to empty all the mail from my trolley
into the bag box i used to use,and lock an empty trolley next to it.
Personally,i'd still rather use the trolley though.
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Re: HCT

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Quick question,i've used theses years ago and found i had a wrist problem when pushing one with one hand and holding a bundle in the other.
How are we supposed to push a full up one with one hand?
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Post by clashcityrocker »

POSTMAN wrote:Quick question,i've used theses years ago and found i had a wrist problem when pushing one with one hand and holding a bundle in the other.
How are we supposed to push a full up one with one hand?
I'm surprised this one went unnoticed.
How is the wrist?
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Postman - have you locked this thread so we can't discuss your RSI?
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Re: HCT

Post by POSTMAN »

Ok,don't use a HCT anymore but i'm married,RSI's still there. :oops:
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.