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Initial discussion representation

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BelfastPostie
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Initial discussion representation

Post by BelfastPostie »

I was talking to a mate today about him going to an initial discussion about a made up incident (by the manager) with the manager this coming Tuesday. My mate showed me the invitation letter for the intial discussion and the manager states on it that it is a 'one to one' discussion and with no union representation allowed to be present. Is the manager allowed to do this and have no union representation afforded to the postie? I have to say this manager has been losing the plot for the last several months and I think he has shot himself (shotgun style) right in the foot. What does anybody think of this?
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POSTMAN
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Re: Initial discussion representation

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no union representation allowed to be present
Total bollox.
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jockstrapp
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Re: Initial discussion representation

Post by jockstrapp »

Take your rep or tell him you won't be going to his meeting. :so there :so there :so there I was invited to same kind of meeting and took rep no problem.

p.s. dom made an @rse of himself :left: :left: :left:
Mercian
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Re: Initial discussion representation

Post by Mercian »

Tell him to agree to the meeting only if his union rep is present and to also slap in a B&H complaint as he has all the evidence he needs in writing.
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Re: Initial discussion representation

Post by Lincox »

Post a copy of the letter to CWU HQ and ACAS. Tell him you will attend the meeting once you have been properly advised by the Union.
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Re: Initial discussion representation

Post by bogstandard »

take a rep. keep the letter and tell your half witted friend that you've passed on his invitational letter to your branch.
then listen very carefully and see if you can hear their arse squeak :crazy: :crazy:
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Re: Initial discussion representation

Post by BELIAL »

Tell your mate to agree to this one to one meeting but on the condition that it takes place at a time and venue of his own choosing and that the DOM attends unaccompanied and informs no one of the meeting place :cool
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Re: Initial discussion representation

Post by AndyK »

Conduct Code: 2 guiding principles, at all stages of the procedure (i.e. excluding counselling) the employee will have the right to be represented by the relevant union representative or be accompanied by a friend of the same work location
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Re: Initial discussion representation

Post by norbert »

POSTMAN wrote:
no union representation allowed to be present
Total bollox.
It's even more likely to be bent and everything will be purely to impress more Senior managers and to a predetermined outcome . That would be a suspicious issue which a adverse inference could be drawn , should the situation get more serious .