fact finding interveiw

[sharonbar]

after a quick fact finding interveiw i was suspended so how long do you have to wait before your next interveiw i still havent herd an its a week tommorow last letter was 5th nov saying still suspened until further investigations are carried out will they have full hard core evidence like photos of me on duty an car being at home im still depressed an its really getting to me im totally depressed now an if i get a line from the doctors will they just dismiss me straight away as i cant sleep with worrie on how im going to pay my bills now an in the future any advice please just incase people dont know im getting done for falsely claiming 1hr overtime

[shadow]

How can they prove you were at home just cause your car was, thats not evidence.

[coxie]

if they dismiss you make sure you lodge an appeal within 3 days, a proper tribunal will probably find in your favour if you dont win an appeal. They have no proof, you surely are clever enough to have made up an excuse why your car was at home? i would have just said its at home because i dont use it on my duty so its always home.

[mydaily]

I have a similar incident hanging over me just waiting to see I they feel like trying a jumped up charge. Was accused of having car on delivery and being home before I actually was. as it happenned that day I walked to work. I can prove that should they try it on as my house has CCTV haven't told them thought. balls in their court now!

[sharonbar]

hi mydaily will they have photos of me as some days i use hubbys van so are you up for the same as me are you suspended aswell

[mydaily]

hi mydaily will they have photos of me as some days i use hubbys van so are you up for the same as me are you suspended aswell

if it was my manager they'd have photos as the camera goes everywhere, though I believe legally they must have due course to snap anyone even on work time.

Not suspended as they don't have enough cause to do so but they are currently deciding and speaking to above whether they have enough info to take further. I'm lucky that I have CCTV on my property and it clearly shows when I left house without car and when I returned home without car and car never moved all day.

I sometime come to work in car,bike or walk depends how I feel when I get up so there arguement of I always take car to work and it was not in car park at work during my delivery time just don't wash. unfortunately that's never stopped RM.

[johnnyp]

sharonbar click on this link and open up the bit about the conduct code,have a good read through it as it explains all that should happen to an indivdual when in this situation.


http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 36&t=12071" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[norbert]

How can they prove you were at home just cause your car was, thats not evidence.

it sounds like circumstantial evidence , not hard evidence , what might be acceptable on Planet RM is not necessarily acceptable in the real world ; but they've traditionally regarded themselves as above the law , it's just got a lot worse as they operate at the legal limit at the best of times and at worst put perverse interpretations on things , stretch the truth , move the goalposts etc .

With the Union use the " I'll take this outside the PO " line of attack .

I have heard horror stories about managers doing statements like " I do not trust this person " , " this person is dishonest " etc , etc which sound like glorified non admissible hearsay i.e. " he said , she said " ; as they might be so desperate to make things stick and impress more senior managers .

[bogstandard]

don't sit there fretting, get out there and start to put your proof together.
if your job is on the line then get out there and speak to possible cctv owners/operators

[norbert]

don't sit there fretting, get out there and start to put your proof together.
if your job is on the line then get out there and speak to possible cctv owners/operators

make RM work for their evidence - RM " fact finding " is usually a contradiction in terms

[sharonbar]

well how do you work this one out im suspended an someone in my office is up for the same thing an still working we both have our interveiws on thursday an we both have clear records

[Lincox]

Remember, you dont have to prove you are innocent. They have to prove you are guilty beyond any doubt.

[sharonbar]

they know what time i fisihed but they dont know what time i started as some days i went early an that was cleared with the manager when i went back he said it wasnt an issue but why suspend one of us an not both

[Lincox]

Have you received in writing, the reasons why you have been suspended. If not you should and be entitled to receive in writing what you have actually done to warrant being suspended. How can you defend yourself if you have not been given this information. If I was in your position I would not entertain attending any further disciplinary hearing until I had received such information. If you have been suspended for an action in your office, that has been agreed by your LM and other postpersons in the office are doing the same thing, and yet not being suspended, you may have a justifiable case for discrimination.

[sharonbar]

hen i go for my interveiw can i mention that i feel justifiable discrimination for suspendeding me an not the other lad thats on the same charges of me will i get a result on thursday aswell or will they keep me on tether hooks they did say in my letter that they will take in to consideration that i have a clear record