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CWU should invoke this now

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Broxi51
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CWU should invoke this now

Post by Broxi51 »

I have posted along this line before but now I think that this is something the Union at the top should say to RM.
With EA's going in left right and centre to feed RM's savings frenzy this is something that I feel could hurt if it was a nationwide response from the CWU.
They should tell RM that staff will no longer go and see their manager if they are going to be late or if they are going to cut off. The union should tell RM that staff are contracted to work 5, 6.5 or 8 hours and this they will carry out daily. They will leave any mail in the frame that they are unable to do within that contracted time. If managers want staff to work OT then they should go round and ask on a daily basis the same way any other firm would do.
Staff at Tescos do not go down and see their manager and say that they will need another 30 minutes to do aisle 3 or that they are cutting off, so why should we have to do this.
If the CWU set this in stone then RM would be up s**t creek. CWU shouldnt have to negotiate this with RM as they are purely wanting us to work the contracted hours.
Just think of the fun of watching your manager come round on a daily basis and beg you to work over :Very Happy or leave the bottom row of mail in your frame and go out on delivery knowing that there is no wilful delay waiting for you.
If nothing else I think it would get RM round the table like a shot since nothing else appears to be working.
It is not IA it is working our contracted hours plus OT if you want and the manager has asked you.
The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
belle smith
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Post by belle smith »

certainly think it should be included in any future agreement!! the number of hoops you must jump through just to say you don't want to work O/T is unbelievable, as are the managers when disscuing it with them it's like arguing with a magic 8 ball.
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Re: CWU should invoke this now

Post by Pat Ostman »

I totally agree except this is live mail we are talking about and I guess responsibility from both sides is needed.

Yes, both sides dim's!
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Broxi51
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Re: CWU should invoke this now

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Dims have agreed that they have to challenge posties about OT or cutting off. This puts pressure on the postie so why shouldnt the CWU take that pressure off of them by informing RM that their members will only work their contracted hours unless they are asked to work over. The responsibility of any live mail left will no longer be the responsibility of their members as they are working their contracted hours and instead be the responsibility of the dims who are getting paid for that responsibility.
The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
belle smith
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Post by belle smith »

IPS wrote:I totally agree except this is live mail we are talking about and I guess responsibility from both sides is needed.

Yes, both sides dim's!
didn't previously have a problem with that, was allways willing to work over, to achieve USO on some (rare) occassions on more than just my own duty as well. but that was when there was some give and take and not just take and take even more. their plan let them manage it!!
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Post by BELIAL »

Can't do overtime :Very Happy Very sorry ,previous commitments :Very Happy Don't you just know their in deep s**t when they are forced to ask :chuckle :chuckle
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Broxi51
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Re: CWU should invoke this now

Post by Broxi51 »

BELIAL wrote:Can't do overtime :Very Happy Very sorry ,previous commitments :Very Happy Don't you just know their in deep s**t when they are forced to ask :chuckle :chuckle

And that should be on a daily basis :Very Happy
The time has come to stop turning the other cheek, time to stop shaking our heads in bitter dismay, time to stop mumbling our angry words.
The time has come for union.
BELIAL
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Re: CWU should invoke this now

Post by BELIAL »

Set in stone Broxi, no wavering. We've got pt's on their absolute uppers in this office. course management are only off their trolleys in panic for four days each week,but for now that will do :chuckle
Bye