Locked up depot -duty of care from RM managers

[Tiggy76]

Could you please advise? Is it ok to expect a postie to stay out delivering on a Sunday till.6pm when the Manager finishes at 4pm. If this becomes a regular expectation surely the Manager needs to also stay later? Is it acceptable for them to tell us to take the PDA home and make sure van is locked on the street or take it home.Also from a duty of care angle what if something awful happened...how would they know?

[Playmail]

we dont even have a manager on a sunday so i guess so

[Tiggy76]

we dont even have a manager on a sunday so i guess so

So what do you do with parcels that were undeliverable? Do they just stay in the van overnight wherever you've parked it? It just seems really wrong!

[qwerty2]

we dont even have a manager on a sunday so i guess so

So what do you do with parcels that were undeliverable? Do they just stay in the van overnight wherever you've parked it? It just seems really wrong!

They'll sack you if they get nicked

[tramssirhc]

Could you please advise? Is it ok to expect a postie to stay out delivering late on a Sunday eg.6pm when the Manager finishes at 4pm. If this becomes a regular expectation surely the Manager needs to also stay later? Is it acceptable for them to tell us to take the PDA home and make sure van is locked on the street or take it home.Also from a duty of care angle what if something awful happened...how would they know?

No one has to work past their finish time. Lone working should be risk assessed. The SOP states no mail can be left in vehicles overnight. PDA's go back in the charging cabinet so they can charge and be updated. What the CWU doing about it?

[Tiggy76]

we dont even have a manager on a sunday so i guess so

So what do you do with parcels that were undeliverable? Do they just stay in the van overnight wherever you've parked it? It just seems really wrong!

They'll sack you if they get nicked

That's what I thought! Then surely they have to keep the depot open until all shifts are finished, vans back and undelivered parcels secured?

[Tiggy76]

Could you please advise? Is it ok to expect a postie to stay out delivering late on a Sunday eg.6pm when the Manager finishes at 4pm. If this becomes a regular expectation surely the Manager needs to also stay later? Is it acceptable for them to tell us to take the PDA home and make sure van is locked on the street or take it home.Also from a duty of care angle what if something awful happened...how would they know?

No one has to work past their finish time. Lone working should be risk assessed. The SOP states no mail can be left in vehicles overnight. PDA's go back in the charging cabinet so they can charge and be updated. What the CWU doing about it?
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That's just what I thought about parcels being left in van/PDAs etc. Thank you.

[fadetogrey63]

Finished my compulsory Sunday shift earlier at a diff office, ours is closed Sundays, took the van back to my local depot with all the undelivered parcels locked in the van till Monday, took the keys and PDA back home with me, all the Sunday drivers do this every week, some take the van home..

[Playmail]

we have to take them back and lock up ourselves

[Tiggy76]

we have to take them back and lock up ourselves

They literally leave you to do everything. So you must all have a key to the gates and buildings and have to reset alarms etc. This seems way beyond the responsibility of what a postie should be doing. Surely this isn't right?

[Tiggy76]

Finished my compulsory Sunday shift earlier at a diff office, ours is closed Sundays, took the van back to my local depot with all the undelivered parcels locked in the van till Monday, took the keys and PDA back home with me, all the Sunday drivers do this every week, some take the van home..

I'm amazed that this is ok and normal working practise. Like someone wrote earlier...if those parcels go missing it's our necks on line.
What is the Union stance on this? Has it been questioned in your office?

[Tiggy76]

Could you please advise? Is it ok to expect a postie to stay out delivering late on a Sunday eg.6pm when the Manager finishes at 4pm. If this becomes a regular expectation surely the Manager needs to also stay later? Is it acceptable for them to tell us to take the PDA home and make sure van is locked on the street or take it home.Also from a duty of care angle what if something awful happened...how would they know?

No one has to work past their finish time. Lone working should be risk assessed. The SOP states no mail can be left in vehicles overnight. PDA's go back in the charging cabinet so they can charge and be updated. What the CWU doing about it?

It looks like others are having the same concerns and that having parcels in vans overnight is commonplace. It's terrible!

[tramssirhc]

Could you please advise? Is it ok to expect a postie to stay out delivering late on a Sunday eg.6pm when the Manager finishes at 4pm. If this becomes a regular expectation surely the Manager needs to also stay later? Is it acceptable for them to tell us to take the PDA home and make sure van is locked on the street or take it home.Also from a duty of care angle what if something awful happened...how would they know?

No one has to work past their finish time. Lone working should be risk assessed. The SOP states no mail can be left in vehicles overnight. PDA's go back in the charging cabinet so they can charge and be updated. What the CWU doing about it?

It looks like others are having the same concerns and that having parcels in vans overnight is commonplace. It's terrible!

It's what happens because the CWU doesn't care about any worker who works Sundays.

[Tiggy76]

Could you please advise? Is it ok to expect a postie to stay out delivering late on a Sunday eg.6pm when the Manager finishes at 4pm. If this becomes a regular expectation surely the Manager needs to also stay later? Is it acceptable for them to tell us to take the PDA home and make sure van is locked on the street or take it home.Also from a duty of care angle what if something awful happened...how would they know?

No one has to work past their finish time. Lone working should be risk assessed. The SOP states no mail can be left in vehicles overnight. PDA's go back in the charging cabinet so they can charge and be updated. What the CWU doing about it?

It looks like others are having the same concerns and that having parcels in vans overnight is commonplace. It's terrible!

It's what happens because the CWU doesn't care about any worker who works Sundays.

It seems to be true. It's so disappointing.

[Hyrrokkin]

Anything goes wrong of course it is you in the s**t not the manager (at least at first never know down the line depending)

Nothing surprises me any more with RM