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Leaving the business a day after my rota week

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Revilo87
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Leaving the business a day after my rota week

Post by Revilo87 »

Hi there

I’ve left Royal Mail after 15 years service and finished the day after my rota week.
I got my wage slip the following Thursday and noticed they’d stopped my basic pay.
I know it’s different at every office but at ours we work 5 6 day weeks (getting paid for 5 days) and get the 6th off.
So I thought if you’d worked the 5 weeks prior you should get paid your basic pay on your rota?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Cheers
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

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It will depend on where in the rotation your week off fell.

When you introduce a 6 week rotation (5 duty holders and a rotator) someone has to take the first week off which in effect means they owe the business 5 days every time it's their week off .

Whoever takes the 6th week in the rotation has obviously already worked their 5 weeks and doesn't owe anything.

Those in between will vary between 4 and 1 day owed.

I would ask to see the working because chances are they haven't got a clue where in the rotation you were and are just trying it on.
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

Post by ted_e_bear »

Do you mean you had your week off then didn't return ?
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

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ted_e_bear wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 14:24
Do you mean you had your week off then didn't return ?

Yes
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 14:18
It will depend on where in the rotation your week off fell.

When you introduce a 6 week rotation (5 duty holders and a rotator) someone has to take the first week off which in effect means they owe the business 5 days every time it's their week off .

Whoever takes the 6th week in the rotation has obviously already worked their 5 weeks and doesn't owe anything.

Those in between will vary between 4 and 1 day owed.

I would ask to see the working because chances are they haven't got a clue where in the rotation you were and are just trying it on.
Ok great thanks
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

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Revilo87 wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 14:29
ted_e_bear wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 14:24
Do you mean you had your week off then didn't return ?

Yes
Would that be correct then as your pay last week would have been your final pay, don't forget we don't work a week in hand so when we started we got paid on our 1st week.

Edit...ah sorry did you mean you didn't get paid anything whilst you were on your week off, yes definitely incorrect, you should have been due at least 1 days pay but as woody said above I bet no-one knows where you featured in the rotation when you started on it
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

Post by Jefferson Starfish »

A bloke at ours left recently and his last wee in employment was his Wally week. The manager said it didn't matter where in the rota it fell.
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

Post by Woody Guthrie »

Jefferson Starfish wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 14:51
A bloke at ours left recently and his last wee in employment was his Wally week. The manager said it didn't matter where in the rota it fell.
Probably couldn't be arsed trying to work it out.
It does matter but it's one of those things that is difficult to find out 15 years later.
You need a rep that keeps notes and is still alive.
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Revilo87
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

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Ok thanks for your help.
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 14:18
It will depend on where in the rotation your week off fell.

When you introduce a 6 week rotation (5 duty holders and a rotator) someone has to take the first week off which in effect means they owe the business 5 days every time it's their week off .

Whoever takes the 6th week in the rotation has obviously already worked their 5 weeks and doesn't owe anything.

Those in between will vary between 4 and 1 day owed.

I would ask to see the working because chances are they haven't got a clue where in the rotation you were and are just trying it on.
I'm pretty sure that from the Natioal Guidlines on working Wallington weeks, no adjustment was made for leavers who had been on the Wallington work pattern if they had worked this for over 6 months.

The link to the guidelines was in this old post.
viewtopic.php?f=36&t=46894

Unfortunately I can't get the link to open, but that may be due to my security settings.
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

Post by Woody Guthrie »

That link is dead but I have a copy of it anyway.

It's a bit more vague than that..
Where people have been working the arrangement for more than six months this should not be necessary.
I would imagine they'll argue that should not be necessary isn't the same as shouldn't be done.

Still it's worth a shot.
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Re: Leaving the business a day after my rota week

Post by Tman »

Revilo87 wrote:
25 Jul 2022, 14:03
Hi there

I’ve left Royal Mail after 15 years service and finished the day after my rota week.
I got my wage slip the following Thursday and noticed they’d stopped my basic pay.
I know it’s different at every office but at ours we work 5 6 day weeks (getting paid for 5 days) and get the 6th off.
So I thought if you’d worked the 5 weeks prior you should get paid your basic pay on your rota?
Sounds like a typical dumb-arse postie manager's decision.
How many hours do you work over five the weeks? Is it the same amount as you (or one of your colleagues) would have worked if they worked six weeks out of six as an attendance pattern, ie, are you working the same hours as others but over five, rather than six weeks?
If you went sick for a period of time would you be unpaid for every sixth week?
If not, that manager (or whoever entered your data) is talking out of his backside.