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Marston
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Removed from rural after conduct?

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One of my colleagues is currently going through the conduct procedure, and I'm hearing that if she gets to keep her job then she's going to be taken off her walk and put onto a reserve duty, for the reason that the DOM can't trust her where she is currently.

I don't want to say too much on here, but she's up for intentional delay.

Can the DOM actually pull her off a walk that she signed for after our revision?
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Re: Removed from rural after conduct?

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Marston wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 16:09
One of my colleagues is currently going through the conduct procedure, and I'm hearing that if she gets to keep her job then she's going to be taken off her walk and put onto a reserve duty, for the reason that the DOM can't trust her where she is currently.

I don't want to say too much on here, but she's up for intentional delay.

Can the DOM actually pull her off a walk that she signed for after our revision?
Intentional delay!!! Bloody hell theres millions of letters and packets across the business that have been intentionally delayed by the stupid revisions for weeks now. Hope she's got a Rep to tell them to shove it
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Re: Removed from rural after conduct?

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pieoftheday wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 16:43
Hope she's got a Rep to tell them to shove it
Depending on what she has or hasn't done that might not be the best advice.
The simple answer to the question above is yes - but it really depends on what has occurred.

Being removed from the duty might be preferable to being removed from the business completely?
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Re: Removed from rural after conduct?

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Intentional delay!!! Bloody hell theres millions of letters and packets across the business that have been intentionally delayed by the stupid revisions for weeks now. Hope she's got a Rep to tell them to shove it
I get you Pieoftheday, but, this isn't just stashing a couple of letters, it's pretty much a 'bang to rights, what the hell were you thinking' kind of deal. Along with another accusation that she's 100% guilty of by admission, and that's another potential gross misconduct.

She might get off on a technicality, but I'm wondering if there's any precedent or agreement that covers someone senior being taken off of a duty.

Also: Thanks for the reply, ClashCityRocker. I agree, better to lose your duty than lose your job.
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How on earth someone could get taken down the disciplinary route for wilful delay considering what the business itself is doing is utterly bonkers :arrrghhh
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Marston wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 16:59
Intentional delay!!! Bloody hell theres millions of letters and packets across the business that have been intentionally delayed by the stupid revisions for weeks now. Hope she's got a Rep to tell them to shove it
I get you Pieoftheday, but, this isn't just stashing a couple of letters, it's pretty much a 'bang to rights, what the hell were you thinking' kind of deal. Along with another accusation that she's 100% guilty of, and that's another potential gross misconduct.

She might get off on a technicality, but I'm wondering if there's any precedent or agreement that covers someone senior being taken off of a duty.

Also: Thanks for the reply, ClashCityRocker. I agree, better to lose your duty than lose your job.
Ah fair enough, sounds your colleague has been a chump then
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i'm more interested why the post header highlights "rural"
would it matter if it was a rough estate or business route?
maybe just a plain "removed from duty" would suffice
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world class male wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 18:09
i'm more interested why the post header highlights "rural"
would it matter if it was a rough estate or business route?
maybe just a plain "removed from duty" would suffice
In this instance, the reason being that it's easier to 'take advantage' of being alone on a rural. More so than it would as part of a shared van pairing.

This situation wouldn't have happened if my colleague weren't on a rural duty.
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Re: Removed from rural after conduct?

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Marston wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 18:14
world class male wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 18:09
i'm more interested why the post header highlights "rural"
would it matter if it was a rough estate or business route?
maybe just a plain "removed from duty" would suffice
In this instance, the reason being that it's easier to 'take advantage' of being alone on a rural. More so than it would as part of a shared van pairing.

This situation wouldn't have happened if my colleague weren't on a rural duty.
ok, but only you are privvy to the situation i guess, but if my dom came up to me and said they didn't trust me anymore i'd have to go on the sick otherwise i'd probably get sacked for assault
you probably ought to refrain from giving anything more away to protect their identity
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ok, but only you are privvy to the situation i guess, but if my dom came up to me and said they didn't trust me anymore i'd have to go on the sick otherwise i'd probably get sacked for assault
you probably ought to refrain from giving anything more away to protect their identity
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Re: Removed from rural after conduct?

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pieoftheday wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 17:43
How on earth someone could get taken down the disciplinary route for wilful delay considering what the business itself is doing is utterly bonkers :arrrghhh
From the outside, yes, but if Royal Mail fails to meet their targets, even if it is caused by failed revisions, then they are fined. IIRC it was £50 million last time.
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Re: Removed from rural after conduct?

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
27 Oct 2021, 08:40
pieoftheday wrote:
26 Oct 2021, 17:43
How on earth someone could get taken down the disciplinary route for wilful delay considering what the business itself is doing is utterly bonkers :arrrghhh
From the outside, yes, but if Royal Mail fails to meet their targets, even if it is caused by failed revisions, then they are fined. IIRC it was £50 million last time.
There must be some more massive fines coming RMs way with recent events
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Grievance form in against managers business go sick don't come back till sorted.
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Re: Removed from rural after conduct?

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Im guessing you want her duty and want to know that even if she keeps her job you will be able to go for it?
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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Re: Removed from rural after conduct?

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Acca Dacca wrote:
06 Nov 2021, 15:25
Im guessing you want her duty and want to know that even if she keeps her job you will be able to go for it?
I think he was simply asking for advice.
A rep's training unfortunately doesn't cover every eventuality.
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