Specialist Post

[The Flying Postie]

Hi there
I am a former PHG and receive the Ex PHG Alowance of £20 per week and also receive a weekly Leadership Allowance of £38.I have been in the locker for years doing this job and everytime theres been a resign since, i get to keep my position.Theres a new resign coming up shortly and my duty is on the board this time for anyone to apply on seniority/suitability

Is this correct or should i be able to keep my duty?

Thanks

[SpacePhoenix]

MC or DO?

[aiden01]

Hi there
I am a former PHG and receive the Ex PHG Alowance of £20 per week and also receive a weekly Leadership Allowance of £38.I have been in the locker for years doing this job and everytime theres been a resign since, i get to keep my position.Theres a new resign coming up shortly and my duty is on the board this time for anyone to apply on seniority/suitability

Is this correct or should i be able to keep my duty?

Thanks

Surely ( if its a full resign) all duties go up to be signed for on a seniority/ suitability basis.

[aiden01]

MC or DO?

Is it done differently in a mc or do.

[The Flying Postie]

MC or DO?

DO

[ted_e_bear]

I know the ex Phg allowance is long gone but if the leadership allowance is something that anyone taking over your duty would qualify for then I think they'll sort of ringfence it for someone who already receives the payment otherwise they'd be paying it out again, presumably if you got kicked off your duty then you still qualify for both payments as it wasn't a voluntary move.

[The Flying Postie]

I know the ex Phg allowance is long gone but if the leadership allowance is something that anyone taking over your duty would qualify for then I think they'll sort of ringfence it for someone who already receives the payment otherwise they'd be paying it out again, presumably if you got kicked off your duty then you still qualify for both payments as it wasn't a voluntary move.

Its not long gone mate

[SpacePhoenix]

When we last had a re-sign all duties including SD locker and mech went into the pot. The SD locker ones went early on i the re-sign, which was done on seniority

[ted_e_bear]

I know the ex Phg allowance is long gone but if the leadership allowance is something that anyone taking over your duty would qualify for then I think they'll sort of ringfence it for someone who already receives the payment otherwise they'd be paying it out again, presumably if you got kicked off your duty then you still qualify for both payments as it wasn't a voluntary move.

Its not long gone mate

I meant the Phg allowance is long gone just a typo I added "ex" by mistake.... sorry only trying to help and offer my advice.

[POSTMAN]

Way forward which still holds the field.

SELECTION BY SKILLS

15.1 All frontline jobs performed by the new multi-skilled single operational grade will have the same core capabilities. However, it is recognised that there are come jobs that require more specialised skills. An objective selection process will be introduced for these jobs.

15.2 These jobs will be filled by the most senior person who has achieved the right standard for the job during the selection process. Sick attendance and conduct record will only be taken into account where these are relevant to the work. Where training is required by the most senior suitable person, this will be given prior to appointment.

15.3 Resourcing procedures will be based on the Resourcing Area. This will in all cases be the Royal Mail administrative area (i.e. the areas managed by Area Managers, subject to review in the light of any organisational changes). Jobs filled internally will be available to employees currently working in any office within the Area concerned.

15.4 Vacancies for specialist jobs will be advertised throughout the resourcing area. Applications should be made in writing to the Resourcing Unit.

15.5 Employees who wish to be considered for specialist jobs in general should register their interest via the Resourcing Unit or include it in their own Development Plan, a copy of which will be held by the Resourcing Unit (see section 19). This information will be used for training planning. Where a vacancy arises, equal consideration will be given to individuals who have registered their interest through Development Plan or through the Resourcing Unit in writing at the time when the vacancy is advertised. The objective is to allow and maintain openness and fairness in relation to resourcing specialist posts.

15.6 The specific jobs that require specialist skills and which will be subject to selection are:

Resourcing Unit (Bookroom);
DOM Support;
Traffic Office;
Enquiry/Callers’ Office;
Major Customer Collection drivers
(to be jointly defined at National level):
Benefits Agency/Customer Mailroom;
Travelling Post Office;
Leadership roles (formerly PHG ‘A’);
Heavy Goods Vehicle Driving (HGV);
Postbus (PSV);
VCS/MAA;
IMP/MTT;
Advanced TPM;
Non-school training

15.7 All specialist jobs will have consistent job descriptions, which will identify the specialist capabilities and which will be standard throughout Royal Mail.

15.8 Employees who are regarded as suitable should be dedicated to these duties for a minimum of 12 months. If after 12 months the employee wishes to change jobs, they must give adequate notice to enable a suitable trained replacement to be found before release can be allowed. The replacement must be available to take up post no later than six months after notice has been given.

The process for resourcing specialist posts will be one of four options, in the following order, unless agreed locally to change this order:

• Deployment of existing surplus employees with the appropriate skills;
• Internal advertisement of the job within the resourcing area itself;
• The acceptance of an existing employee with the appropriate skills from another resourcing area who has previously had his/her name placed on the transfer list for that resourcing area;
• External advertisement.

15.9 This decision will be taken locally, but normally jobs will be filled by internal advertisement, by a surplus employee or a transferee before there is recourse to external advertisement.

[SpacePhoenix]

15.6 The specific jobs that require specialist skills and which will be subject to selection are:

Resourcing Unit (Bookroom);
DOM Support;
Traffic Office;
Enquiry/Callers’ Office;
Major Customer Collection drivers
(to be jointly defined at National level):
Benefits Agency/Customer Mailroom;
Travelling Post Office;
Leadership roles (formerly PHG ‘A’);
Heavy Goods Vehicle Driving (HGV);
Postbus (PSV);
VCS/MAA;
IMP/MTT;
Advanced TPM;
Non-school training

Mech isn't a specialist post anymore it's done on seniority. We've even had casuals trained on the mech.

Going by that list the SD locker in a DO might come under the designation of a specialist duty if it's combined with the callers office

[rainbowwarrior72]

Its quite possible that the DOM has not heard of The New Way Forward afterall its been 21years since it came in and alot of managers probably don't realise re Resigns that Way Forward still holds even after all these years and other agreements that have come in since. I would bring it up with the DOM and Union Rep and clarify the position to them. Only people who were in the business from before 2000 will know about The Way Forward Agreement

[woofwoof]

Your ring fenced tell the dom to do one

[clashcityrocker]

Your ring fenced tell the dom to do one

Why is he ring fenced?
Why wouldn't someone with the same skills and more seniority be allowed to sign for the duty?

[woofwoof]

Opt out no change of duty structure