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Plimred
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Probationary warning

Post by Plimred »

Hi,
Had a disaster since joining RM minor bump in van,few weeks later brought some mail back .Conditions were bad ice and snow getting late tried to ring office no answer. No training didn't know procedure as newbie.

Now received serious warning for returned mail,and invited to dismissal meeting days afterwards.
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Re: Probationary warning

Post by Dorset Plodder »

Plimred wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 20:35
Hi,
Had a disaster since joining RM minor bump in van,few weeks later brought some mail back .Conditions were bad ice and snow getting late tried to ring office no answer. No training didn't know procedure as newbie.

Now received serious warning for returned mail,and invited to dismissal meeting days afterwards.
First things first GET THE UNION INVOLVED. You're probably not a member being so new, so find the Unit Rep and join up, then brief him on the situation. No Rep? Find the number of the Area CWU Office and tell them.

Don't try and sort this yourself because the DOM will stitch you up with Bullshit! :no no The CWU may get a lot of Bad Press but they do tend to pull their finger out when RM are trying to sack someone.

I wouldn't get too stressed over, although being on Probation makes it slightly tricky, but what do they expect when you're given no training. I can't remember the last person I saw sacked. That included turning up for work pissed and telling the DOM to Eff Off! Good Luck.:cuppa
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
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Re: Probationary warning

Post by Plimred »

Thanks,
Been in Union since day one, went home today after receiving letter felt sick dizzy stressed,I can't believe this can happen. I don't do anything wrong ,ashamed to think a company such as RM behave in such a way.Been given a walking round expected to finish in 2.5 hrs not paid ot,this is like some dark satanic mill.Disgusting way to treat honest hard working employees, seem to get someone in their sites then attack with fervour.
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Re: Probationary warning

Post by Ad_bee »

As stated, get the union involved.

You are correct that Royal Mail operates a Kafkaesque (Kafkaesque is used to describe situations that are disorientingly and illogically complex in a surreal or nightmarish way. Kafkaesque comes from the name of author Franz Kafka, who lived from 1883 to 1924.) management policy so its important to remember that its not 'you'....its them O.K?

Also, the management are simply working to an algorithmic automated process that seems to have been programmed by people from an alternative reality so in some respects its not even 'them' but is 'computer says'.

Its bullshit.

From traffic forecasts to reporting standards (a pointless and soul destroying song'n'dance) and union LTB's (LTB 078/17 - Royal Mail & CWU National Joint Statement Avoiding Delay (Commit to Deliver) and Reporting Standards: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=95634) its pure bullshit accross the entire operation.

I can see no reason why a simple phonecall to the unit locker via PDA and a report noted wouldn't suffice in recording over-running deliveries.

Its a Pantomime and we're the butt of the jokes.

Try not to stress it....there's supposed to be a jobs boom coming so better employers and opportunities might be available elsewhere soon.
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Re: Probationary warning

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Plimred wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 23:42
Thanks,
Been in Union since day one, went home today after receiving letter felt sick dizzy stressed,I can't believe this can happen. I don't do anything wrong ,ashamed to think a company such as RM behave in such a way.Been given a walking round expected to finish in 2.5 hrs not paid ot,this is like some dark satanic mill.Disgusting way to treat honest hard working employees, seem to get someone in their sites then attack with fervour.
Glad you're already in the Union. Hope they help out. There's obviously two sides to every story but I'd be disgusted if they just let RM sack you just like that. :no no Unfortunately RM will probably use the Probation Angle if they want to. :thumbdown

Look on the Bright Side ... as mentioned there's meant to be a jobs boom coming when everyone returns to work. :pray It's not as if you've built up a large pension pot and invested a lot of time & emotion in the job (like a lot of Old Timers who just have to take the crap because they don't want to leave). :Boo hoo!

Also do you really want to work for a company that treated you like that? Now you've seen what utterly incompetent Management we've got to put up with you could find better. Good Luck, Don't get Stressed ... it's a Killer ... Let us know how it goes. :cuppa
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
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Re: Probationary warning

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Thanks I will
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Re: Probationary warning

Post by panzer4 »

Plimred wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 23:42
Thanks,
Been in Union since day one, went home today after receiving letter felt sick dizzy stressed,I can't believe this can happen. I don't do anything wrong ,ashamed to think a company such as RM behave in such a way.Been given a walking round expected to finish in 2.5 hrs not paid ot,this is like some dark satanic mill.Disgusting way to treat honest hard working employees, seem to get someone in their sites then attack with fervour.
Well done you for joining the union get them to fight for you.sorry you’ve had to find out this way how management treat the staff trust me if it’s a months service or forty years service they don’t give a toss about you.good luck to you
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Re: Probationary warning

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Update took time off sick.Then left ,what a terrible bunch of bullying managers,this shouldn't be happening in a modern work place .No unity,no fight,no camraderie, no thanks!
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Re: Probationary warning

Post by Woody Guthrie »

I think I've said this before but if I started with Royal Mail today I'd probably jack it in tomorrow so there's no shame in bailing out.

It's only the time invested and stubbornness that keeps most of us in this place and both excuses are wearing thin for me personally.
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