Any Good News From a Pilot Office?

[HarrySutton111]

All the infrastruture changes that the CWU has negotiated over the previous 10 years have been an abysmal failure.

In my own opinion the CWU name is mud on the shop floor after that last sell out agreement as the members received no benefits with the walk out losing out not only financially, but also previous terms and conditions.

New starters on these two tier inferior contracts only last a few days for doing exactly the same work as legacy staff suffering a substantial financial detriment.

Not to mention the walks are unworkable being too big to complete in daily contracted hours. One of the reasons being late getting out due to the lack of staff on the IPS. This is an issue the CWU ignores with just lip service.

It was the CWU that gave Royal Mail the legal means to this executive action by breaching the legal undertakings in the Agenda For Growth Agreement.

Royal Mail employees, including management staff have every right to be bitter.

The CWU needs to start being honest with the staff if it hopes to recruit new members and regain a positive reputation instead of this constant spin and deceit.

Why then do members vote yes for every agreement that is done.honestly do not know many bitter members bar a few on here (an even most of them are not members).

Because CWU chucked at folk £1000 last time, plus folk like you hammering folk on every post saying folk would be out of a job if it doesnt come in,

[Barnacle]

All the infrastruture changes that the CWU has negotiated over the previous 10 years have been an abysmal failure.

In my own opinion the CWU name is mud on the shop floor after that last sell out agreement as the members received no benefits with the walk out losing out not only financially, but also previous terms and conditions.

New starters on these two tier inferior contracts only last a few days for doing exactly the same work as legacy staff suffering a substantial financial detriment.

Not to mention the walks are unworkable being too big to complete in daily contracted hours. One of the reasons being late getting out due to the lack of staff on the IPS. This is an issue the CWU ignores with just lip service.

It was the CWU that gave Royal Mail the legal means to this executive action by breaching the legal undertakings in the Agenda For Growth Agreement.

Royal Mail employees, including management staff have every right to be bitter.

The CWU needs to start being honest with the staff if it hopes to recruit new members and regain a positive reputation instead of this constant spin and deceit.

Why then do members vote yes for every agreement that is done.honestly do not know many bitter members bar a few on here (an even most of them are not members).

Because CWU chucked at folk £1000 last time, plus folk like you hammering folk on every post saying folk would be out of a job if it doesnt come in,

Voters who voted for the lump sum and didn’t bother reading any of the agreement? That was their choice. That is democracy.

[redlen]

Democray is having elections etc that have existing positions with candidates for national positions, not elected unopposed

Not to mention having members on both the NEC and PEC as rubber stamp jobs on national policy

That is why people do not vote as it does not make a difference

[qwerty2]

Can we all note as well, that if we didn’t have a union, we would all be working the pilot/trial delivery model now? We wouldn’t even have been consulted, it would simply have been rolled out long before now, they’re using ‘needing USO reform’ as an excuse to do what they want anyway.

Duly noted and minuted. On account of this, let’s have three massive cheers for the CWU! And let’s all chant “Here for me and you! Long live the CWU!”

Bitterness about a club you aren’t even in.

Waisted 20 years of money on these pr**s

Have you put weight on round your waisted

Not as much as tweedledum and tweedletw*t

[redlen]

OFCOM have publicly rebuked Royal Mail for publishing start dates for USO change on their website. OFCOM are making it clear that any decision on the USO will be made in the Summer of 2025 and Royal Mail have no remit to move ahead of this.

[qwerty2]

OFCOM have publicly rebuked Royal Mail for publishing start dates for USO change on their website. OFCOM are making it clear that any decision on the USO will be made in the Summer of 2025 and Royal Mail have no remit to move ahead of this.

What have the government said………nothing!

[redlen]

Why would they?

It is down to OFCOM to make its recomendations to the government being the official government regulator.

[tramssirhc]

The point being made is that Royal Mail are implementing changes without approval from the legislator at considerable expense like it is a done deal without prior legislative approval.

What if the ruling Executive say no to the proposals?

They aren't but I get what you're saying. Its no good relying on politicians to save our jobs. Local MP's have been deluged with constituents demanding they uphold the USO and postal workers jobs. Many MP's reply with exactly the same arguement that the CWU is trotting out - the industry can't afford to carry on as it is. These MP's have no idea what the industry can or cannot afford.

The only way to stop whats happening is gor workers to act and demand that the CWU scraps it position and gets the industry renationalised. That can only happen by booting out the entire bureaucracy of the CWU. From local rep to branch secretary, divisional rep to outdoor secretary, they've all sold out and agreed to ODM. Boot them out or leave the CWU. There is no other choice.

[redlen]

Have to agree with you on that one.

The CWU is on its last legs with disapointment. Current membership figures substantiate that.

The CWU are so far out of touch with grass roots issues that are constantly evaded when questions asked.

[qwerty2]

Have to agree with you on that one.

The CWU is on its last legs with disapointment. Current membership figures substantiate that.

The CWU are so far out of touch with grass roots issues that are constantly evaded when questions asked.

How many people have left since the strikes?

[tramssirhc]

Why would they?

It is down to OFCOM to make its recomendations to the government being the official government regulator.

It really isn't and your statement contradicts what you've been saying. The regulator broke ranks and asserted it's authority because it knows parliament is about to kick it's arse.

The regulator is primarily in place to create a market because privitisation never did. Part of that market creation is to ensure the providers do not have an unfair advantage which disadvantages consumers. Of course privitisation is a complete sham and the regulators have been assimilated into the industries. That's what happens with the light touch regulation beloved by parliament.

The regulator should be there to protect the service and the public who use the service.

[Barnacle]

Have to agree with you on that one.

The CWU is on its last legs with disapointment. Current membership figures substantiate that.

The CWU are so far out of touch with grass roots issues that are constantly evaded when questions asked.

How many people have left since the strikes?

That isn’t a straightforward question to answer because the workforce itself has been reduced since the strikes.

[redlen]

A perfect example being current workloads on delivery being too damned big.

You cannnot complete with daily contracted hours. That is why the average is two deliveries a week.

This one issue has been ongoing for years and one of the biggest cause of complaint that is constantly ignored by the CWU.

[Barnacle]

A perfect example being current workloads on delivery being too damned big.

You cannnot complete with daily contracted hours. That is why the average is two deliveries a week.

This one issue has been ongoing for years and one of the biggest cause of complaint that is constantly ignored by the CWU.

That has been my main argument against the pilots: that they are starting from a point of failure.

[redlen]

Well said