FULL AGREEMENT

South East Postie · Post by **South East Postie** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:33

dvbuk55 wrote:C'mon guys it's not all bad. Billy and Dave will be retiring at 60 with a final salary pension, and a pay increase this year of what?

Do I think the deal is crap? - yes it is undoubtedly the worst case scenario - what RM want RM get. Here we have the negotiating officers negotiating absolutely like a pair of amateurs telling the reps to "negotiate and agree locally" any changes and to treat each other with respect

Will I vote NO - No I will vote YES. Why? Because you've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em and it is time to fold 'em. Voting NO will only prolong the agony - these two aren't going to negotiate anything different because mentally they have already accepted and nothing is going to change that.

The next stage of the membership participation should be to get rid of these gravy train robbers and the quicker the better before we're standing at the gates, not on a picket, but wondering if we are going to get a days work!

SCAB

trojan · Post by **trojan** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:33

From what i`ve read on hear so far people are saying a big fat NO, but i`m also reading that not everyone has read it in full.
remember :lfo words at the beginning of all this "there is no more money, this is the final offer" but there has been more money it was`nt the final offer we all stood strong and together,lets read this and then read it again and remember it is down to us to decide.

keep the faith

mark21 · Post by **mark21** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:35

dongash wrote:are hayes and ward on drugs?

Has Hayes and Ward been having to much of this

vote no

South East Postie · Post by **South East Postie** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:35

trojan wrote:From what i`ve read on hear so far people are saying a big fat NO, but i`m also reading that not everyone has read it in full.
remember :lfo words at the beginning of all this "there is no more money, this is the final offer" but there has been more money it was`nt the final offer we all stood strong and together,lets read this and then read it again and remember it is down to us to decide.

keep the faith

ive read it twice, as the first time i thought may have been seeing things. but no it really is sh*t.

geopip · Post by **geopip** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:37

It's time to call to end to this farce, call for a vote of no confidence in Dave Ward. Forget Billy he shouldnâ€™t have ever been in the talks. When the leader of the Postal section of the Union refuses to take his best negotiators into the room with him (Bob Gibson and Terry Pullinger) because they wonâ€™t agree with his s**t stance on moving the deal forward then his head should roll and the no vote is the start.

royalwud · Post by **royalwud** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:37

A BIG NO FROM NOTTINGHAM

WHAT A LOAD OF BULL

phantomshare · Post by **phantomshare** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:38

I thought we realised we had to change? so this proposed agreement deals with change, alright alot of it comes down to local level but it has to go through the IR framework, long and shorts are not ideal but at the moment we are working 8 1/2 hours now already on a friday.

this document needs to be read thouroughly and discussed before being thrown out.

the undertaker · Post by **the undertaker** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:38

ANYONE VOTING YES TO THIS COMPLETE BOLLOX WILL BE ASSURED A BIG PAY CUT WE HAVE LOST SEVERAL HUNDRED POUNDS ALREADY,NO NO NO.FOR CHRISTMAS DINNER I WILL LICK THE GLUE OFF MY CHRISTMAS STAMPS THEN BURN THEM TO KEEP WARM.

CWU AND RM

chayoliver · Post by **chayoliver** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:40

the undertaker wrote:ANYONE VOTING YES TO THIS COMPLETE BOLLOX WILL BE ASSURED A BIG PAY CUT WE HAVE LOST SEVERAL HUNDRED POUNDS ALREADY,NO NO NO.FOR CHRISTMAS DINNER I WILL LICK THE GLUE OFF MY CHRISTMAS STAMPS THEN BURN THEM TO KEEP WARM. CWU AND RM

you wont get no stamps this year

yogibear · Post by **yogibear** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:40

No one with a hint of common sense would vote yes for this crock of shite

postman43 · Post by **postman43** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:41

Bloody hell Keenlyside and the PEC what a load of shite , you should all resign and take ward and billy bastard hayes with you .

South East Postie · Post by **South East Postie** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:42

looks like its all out over xmas ......

sol · Post by **sol** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:44

"goodbye union ..im out .....keep my money in my paypacket good quote dude i think we should all do it"

Don't be bloody stupid. Campaign for a NO vote. It's your union, show the leadership that you have no confidence in them by voting the deal down.

By the way, according to my information the vote on the Executive was 9-5. Perhaps you better find out who the 5 were and get talking to them.

dazzer79 · Post by **dazzer79** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:45

Â£100s lost ...nothing gained !!!!!!!!

union from me !!!! they wonder why postman walk through picket lines !!!

lovenotmoney · Post by **lovenotmoney** » 22 Oct 2007, 18:45

Virtually no change since we went out on strike. As expected a sell out. How have they got the nerve to even offer us this crap.

VOTE NO!